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LogGrad98 said:
Guess it depends on your definition of quality is. To me he suffered from Taylor Swift-itis... everything sounded the same.

And leading a colorful life is not the same as being creative. But I will give you that he was more creative than swift. She is just above a cardboard cutout.
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Tupac is just abut the opposite of a monolithic creative talent. I would be floored if you could name more than 6 Tupac tracks off the top of your head.
 
Pac was Hip-Hop's Hendrix. Died young in the prime of his career so no one got to see him fall off.
 
dalamon said:
this is so, so an old white-guy post.
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dalamon said:
Tupac is just abut the opposite of a monolithic creative talent. I would be floored if you could name more than 6 Tupac tracks off the top of your head.
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But see this is what makes these conversations fun. In the end this kind of thing is a matter of pure opinion. You like something or you don't. It delves into the world of the absurd to see how hard people try to take it out of the world of opinion into the world of cold hard fact through appeals to authority and ad hominem to defend their bruised ego that someone finds something they revere and hold so dear as less than celestial. Cracks me up. And it really makes me wonder about insecurity when merely expressing a dissenting opinion about something as trivial as music can lead to those kinds of exchanges.

My favorite band is Monster Magnet. You don't like them? Ok, that's fine, I will continue to and your not liking them does nothing to minimize my enjoyment. I feel no need to insult you into capitulating or to make myself feel better either. But that's just me.

For the record, I used to listen to more rap in the 90's and especially in the 80's when I found it diverse and interesting. It has progressively grown more mainstream and, as a result, boring for me and I view Tupac, among others, as the catalyst for that change. He was a very polarizing figure who turned out some decent stuff, especially All Eyez, but it turned into the carbon that all other rap was copied from. Now I find most of it derivative and juvenile, but hey our tastes generally change over time. But you can ignore this all since I have the "old white guy" label you need not let my out-dated and defunct excuse for an opinion get in the way of your blind hero worship.
 
LogGrad98 said:
But see this is what makes these conversations fun. In the end this kind of thing is a matter of pure opinion. You like something or you don't. It delves into the world of the absurd to see how hard people try to take it out of the world of opinion into the world of cold hard fact through appeals to authority and ad hominem to defend their bruised ego that someone finds something they revere and hold so dear as less than celestial. Cracks me up. And it really makes me wonder about insecurity when merely expressing a dissenting opinion about something as trivial as music can lead to those kinds of exchanges.

My favorite band is Monster Magnet. You don't like them? Ok, that's fine, I will continue to and your not liking them does nothing to minimize my enjoyment. I feel no need to insult you into capitulating or to make myself feel better either. But that's just me.

For the record, I used to listen to more rap in the 90's and especially in the 80's when I found it diverse and interesting. It has progressively grown more mainstream and, as a result, boring for me and I view Tupac, among others, as the catalyst for that change. He was a very polarizing figure who turned out some decent stuff, especially All Eyez, but it turned into the carbon that all other rap was copied from. Now I find most of it derivative and juvenile, but hey our tastes generally change over time. But you can ignore this all since I have the "old white guy" label you need not let my out-dated and defunct excuse for an opinion get in the way of your blind hero worship.
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Monster Magnet! You must be the oldest whitest Guyest ever. The cold hard fact is that Monster Magnet sucks.
 
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