What's new

The Biden Administration and All Things Politics

I wish 2022 me could visit 2002 me and show me some of this ****.

Just unreal



@Gameface you see this? Ever imagine when you were in the Navy that RW media would interview Osama’s niece to bash the American government for prosecuting leaders of an insurrection against the United States? Also, I should add, be cheering for Russia to succeed in its invasion of a peaceful American ally?
 
I wish 2022 me could visit 2002 me and show me some of this ****.

Just unreal



@Gameface you see this? Ever imagine when you were in the Navy that RW media would interview Osama’s niece to bash the American government for prosecuting leaders of an insurrection against the United States? Also, I should add, be cheering for Russia to succeed in its invasion of a peaceful American ally?

No I didn’t
 
This seems like a horrible idea. This will only result in seeing our beautiful public canyon and mountain lands being privatized for the well-being of a select few. If you're dumb enough to believe that this will help create affordable housing then you're probably dumb enough to believe that Trump will announce his health care plan in just two more weeks.


This is what you're voting for these midterms. Return these idiots to power and you're voting away our public lands.
 
This seems like a horrible idea. This will only result in seeing our beautiful public canyon and mountain lands being privatized for the well-being of a select few. If you're dumb enough to believe that this will help create affordable housing then you're probably dumb enough to believe that Trump will announce his health care plan in just two more weeks.


This is what you're voting for these midterms. Return these idiots to power and you're voting away our public lands.
I'm not tracking how a shortage of land is the issue. I can drive to St. George and once I'm past Payson, all I see is open land everywhere as far as the eye can see.

Affordable housing is definitely an issue, but the root causes lie in cost of goods, builder greed and markets that simply let these things run unchecked. It's the only reason why a house in SoCal can be 10x more than the same house in a place like Kalamazoo, Michigan.

A crash is going to come, it's just a matter of when. We learned nothing in 2008 yet we'll repeat another cycle again because we let it happen.
 
I'm not tracking how a shortage of land is the issue. I can drive to St. George and once I'm past Payson, all I see is open land everywhere as far as the eye can see.

Affordable housing is definitely an issue, but the root causes lie in cost of goods, builder greed and markets that simply let these things run unchecked. It's the only reason why a house in SoCal can be 10x more than the same house in a place like Kalamazoo, Michigan.

A crash is going to come, it's just a matter of when. We learned nothing in 2008 yet we'll repeat another cycle again because we let it happen.
Yeah it has to be land that is also reasonably close to things like jobs and groceries and entertainment/recreation. Land like that is relatively expensive compared to federal land in the middle of nowhere.
 
A perspective interpreting recent years, in America, and elsewhere. Autocracy vs. democracy?



“It is six years since the World Values Survey recorded a plummeting faith in democracy. Fewer than half of under-50s “believed it was essential to live in a country governed democratically”. In Germany, the US and Japan, between 20% and 40% would opt for a “strong leader who does not have to bother with parliaments and elections”. Conventional politics must confront these truths or die. Group identity must be somehow respected or worldwide immigration will become a torment. Federalism must be installed or separatism will destabilise states everywhere. Parliaments and parties must reform their processes or become irrelevant.”
 
I'm not tracking how a shortage of land is the issue. I can drive to St. George and once I'm past Payson, all I see is open land everywhere as far as the eye can see.

Affordable housing is definitely an issue, but the root causes lie in cost of goods, builder greed and markets that simply let these things run unchecked. It's the only reason why a house in SoCal can be 10x more than the same house in a place like Kalamazoo, Michigan.

A crash is going to come, it's just a matter of when. We learned nothing in 2008 yet we'll repeat another cycle again because we let it happen.
Washington Co was specifically mentioned. Perhaps St. George isn't supposed to become a metropolis with millions of people? Where are they getting their water from anyway?

As @Gameface said, the land owned by BLM isn't anywhere near population centers. Grocery stores, schools, etc are all necessary. So unless we plan on connecting land south of Payson with cheap light and fast light rail to downtown SLC... And again, where is this water coming from? Utahns seems in complete denial about climate change. This is becoming the new normal:
Screen Shot 2022-04-12 at 9.09.26 AM.png
Our snowpack is becoming worse while our population is skyrocketing. As the Great Salt Lake dries up, our lake effect snow will decrease. Meaning even less snowpack. Something needs to give and giving more of Mike Lee's greedy donors land to develop certainly isn't the answer.

I'm also curious about why you think we haven't learned anything from 2008? Is subprime mortgage lending making a comeback again? It's my understanding that this recent bubble is the result of:

1. Years of construction shortfall and population booms (in Utah specifically).
2. Wall Street's increase in real estate market share.

Again, this seems different than 2007-2008 when the bubble burst due to subprime mortgages defaulting and bundles wrapped up in these toxic loans torpedoing insurance companies and banks deemed "too big to fail." But I could be wrong. Finance isn't my expertise.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Back
Top