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fishonjazz said:
Ya but right now there isn't really an option to take bidens place. There are a couple of options to take trumps place. Republicans simply need to vote for those options. Which should be easy and obvious. I mean we are talking about trump here. He is a disaster. Daily. Just saw that the bomb squad had to go to the judges house today because today is the final day in court for trumps new york business case. Literally everyday there is a trump scandal. How stupid do you have to be to vote for the guy.
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A Democrat could challenge Biden in a primary, but the party chose not do do anything, even though many party officials are concerned with Biden and his age. It has happened a number of times. I believe the last time a Democrat challenged an incumbent was Carter/Kennedy. And of course on the Rhino side more recently Buchanan unsuccessfully challenged G-Dub. I think Newsom would be a lot more popular choice on the blue side that Biden.

I don't know any Democrats or Independents that are excited to vote for Biden. I unfortunately know many Republicans that are behind Trump (and if you are in Utah you probably do too), but most in my circle simply see Biden as a default, not as a good choice. If Trump wins don't be surprised.
 
TheGoldStandard said:
A Democrat could challenge Biden in a primary, but the party chose not do do anything, even though many party officials are concerned with Biden and his age. It has happened a number of times. I believe the last time a Democrat challenged an incumbent was Carter/Kennedy. And of course on the Rhino side more recently Buchanan unsuccessfully challenged G-Dub. I think Newsom would be a lot more popular choice on the blue side that Biden.

I don't know any Democrats or Independents that are excited to vote for Biden. I unfortunately know many Republicans that are behind Trump (and if you are in Utah you probably do too), but most in my circle simply see Biden as a default, not as a good choice. If Trump wins don't be surprised.
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Exactly. Nothing an average Joe like me can do about Biden. He is the only option

The Republicans have options. That was my point. They can and should vote for someone else. Democratic voters don't really have an option. Which sucks and is dumb

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fishonjazz said:
Exactly. Nothing an average Joe like me can do about Biden. He is the only option

The Republicans have options. That was my point. They can and should vote for someone else. Democratic voters don't really have an option. Which sucks and is dumb

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All Democrats should switch parties and vote for Haley for the primary.
 
TheGoldStandard said:
I don't disagree with you here, but both parties should demand better candidates. I really feel like Trump won the first time because the best the Democratic party could push forward was Hillary. If he wins again, a large portion of it will be due to who he is running against.

Hopefully NH, with a large number of independents that can vote in the primary, will vote for Haley, and then hopefully this will cause voters in other states see there is another viable candidate. However, I have no hope for people in this country to do anything reasonable.
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This is why we desperately need a viable 3rd party. It's never going to happen but it would tremendously help balance out the county.
 
TheGoldStandard said:
All Democrats should switch parties and vote for Haley for the primary.
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Agreed 100%. I will actually vote for her in the general. Doubt i would vote for desantis but if it were him vs biden I would probably just sit that election out or vote for a third party candidate.
If its trump vs biden then biden gets my vote by a landslide. No way in hell i ever consider voting for trump.
 
fishonjazz said:
Agreed 100%. I will actually vote for her in the general. Doubt i would vote for desantis but if it were him vs biden I would probably just sit that election out or vote for a third party candidate.
If its trump vs biden then biden gets my vote by a landslide. No way in hell i ever consider voting for trump.
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Pretty bad state of affairs when we think Haley is a good candidate. She's terrible realistically. But yeah she's better than Trump or Biden.
 
fishonjazz said:
Agreed 100%. I will actually vote for her in the general. Doubt i would vote for desantis but if it were him vs biden I would probably just sit that election out or vote for a third party candidate.
If its trump vs biden then biden gets my vote by a landslide. No way in hell i ever consider voting for trump.
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I'm not sure how I would vote if Haley was the nominee. She has some extreme views, but is a breath of fresh air vs Trump.
 
Al-O-Meter said:
She's John McCain in a dress. If you liked John McCain's politics then she'll be fine.
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Also, she isn't trump which is a huge positive.
 
fishonjazz said:
Also, she isn't trump which is a huge positive.
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The GOP is almost two parties now and she definitely is not on the Trump side. The populist GOP is stronger right now because Trump has a star power than Nikki simply doesn't have but I think it is a mistake to underestimate the neocon wing of the GOP. They do seem to have made quick work of the paleocon Ron DeSantis who I still think would be the best at actually governing even if he is wearing 4" stiletto high heels inside those cowboy boots of his.
 
John McCain most likely knew the cause of the civil war and most certainly wouldn’t be entertaining the notion to pardon Trump for inciting an insurrection at the capitol.
 
I like Biden. Sure, he’s old and he’s never been an amazing public speaker. But he’s accomplished a lot and would accomplish much more if Democrats recapture the House and hold the Senate. He’s been able to score wins that progressives could only dream of under Obama and he’s managed to do it without scaring moderates. He’s essentially passed what Liz Warren or Bernie would’ve wanted to pass had they won the White House. He’s handled foreign affairs really well, despite the far left and right doing everything possible to sabotage him.

Plus, the economy is rocking and he’s nominating liberal judges. I’ve been told for years that’s the primary criteria we should judge presidents on. The other day I filled up at a maverick and saw a Biden “I did that” sticker that a dumb cultist must’ve posted over the summer. But now when I see gas prices all I think about is how I can help him win. Apparently Brandon has made gas so cheap that I have no other option than to reelect him! Thanks MAGA!
 
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