Because the President who support bailing out GM and propping up the Wall Street Banks is such a huge threat to capitalism? Really?
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Because the President who support bailing out GM and propping up the Wall Street Banks is such a huge threat to capitalism? Really?
FWIW it's worth, I see quite a few of these power players as extremely patriotic & holding the best interest of America in their hearts. I have a lot of admiration for Cooperman & love listening to his ideas, even if he is a once head of Goldman Sachs. Quite a few of these billionaires, especially the older, tamer, established ones, are very admirable people. I don't know if they've risen above their own competitive fire or what, but they're definitely not the big bad ogres that Jamie Dimon, "God's work" Blankfein, & Hammering Hank Paulson come across as.
For hells sake, OB. Read the damn letter first. Maybe you can demonize him for joining Buffett's Giving Pledge, just like you're trying to do with Wynn.
For hells sake, OB. Read the damn letter first. Maybe you can demonize him for joining Buffett's Giving Pledge, just like you're trying to do with Wynn.
Oh wow. That would be insane. Can any of you imagine the hysteria and down right anger of either side that lost that. All it would take is one.
Whatever side that lost would be rabid. In todays no compromise political atmosphere would changing EC votes be the straw that broke the camel's back?
It wasn't meant to be an exact correlary .. just poking fun at the Gorester.
I don't doubt their sincerity.
However, it's a mistake to blame Obama for the partisan nature of this debate. He's been a centrist, willing to work with Congress, and compromised on many points (which you regularly bring up as broken promises or flip-flops). The Democratic Party generally, and Obama specifically, has not moved left since the days of Clinton or even Reagan. It's the Republicans who have moved right, away from let's-get-it-done and toward my-way-or-the-highway, to the point where, at a time when we have lower taxes than pretty much at any point in past 100 years, tax hikes are being decried as socialist and abortion-prevention mesures like birth control pills are repression. The Republicans, intentiallonally or not, benefit from the Golden Mean fallacy to a huge degree.
Some people are getting so partisan that they say a claim of "hyperbolic" is "demonization" of the speakier.
TheSilencer1313
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Actually, (as much as I dislike Republicans) the Tea Party and Occupy movements have been forcing Republicans to follow a more constitutional platform.
Your my-way-or-the-highway point doesn't really have any merit when they're just following the constitution, when Democrats completely supersede the document.
Taxes are the lowest than pretty much any point in the last 100 years?
Just to name a few of the invisible ones off-hand.
Are you forgetting the inflation tax, cell phone taxes and surcharges, internet taxes and surcharges, cable TV taxes and surcharges, or all interest incurred by the Federal Reserve?
Just the inflation tax alone would put America in it's highest point of tax percentage in it's history.
This is incorrect. I got Iowa and Ohio backwards. Obama leads in Ohio by .8 and leads in Iowa by 3.something.
Switch OH and IA in my formula and Romney wins.
I disagree that Democrats are failing to follow the Constitution.
According to most independent economists who study the issue. maybe they've forgotten about all the taxes you mention.
Yes, but we didn't want to set you off by correcting yous.