The Debates

[Stoked]

No, Romney refuted a fact and he was wrong. For the Moderator to interject to confirm or deny a fact is necessary to keep the debate from devolving into continuous counter-assertions. (Yes I did!! No you didn't!!)

If you are looking for the moderator to keep them factual then the debates would last 10 hours and nothing would be accomplished.

To me that is an excuses that doesn't cut it. If it did devolve to a YES I did! No You Didn't! thing then she interupts and gets them back on target but she does not refute them on any facts or policy.

If you disagree then that is fine. To me she messed up and any attempt to justify it is pure ********.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

The offshore stuff is interesting but I couldn't care less whose is larger. Completely unimportant.

The only reason it would be somewhat important is that it was an attack point from the Obama campaign against Romney, and it turns out Obama is in almost exactly the same situation.

 

[Stoked]

Why do some of you find the offshore stuff interesting?

(I almost feel this warrants it's own thread.)

It is not interesting by itself. But when one is attacking the other for having offshore accounts and what not, the fact that they have offshore accounts is interesting.

 

[Stoked]

The only reason it would be somewhat important is that it was an attack point from the Obama campaign against Romney, and it turns out Obama is in almost exactly the same situation.

This.

 

[Dr. Jones]

It is not interesting by itself. But when one is attacking the other for having offshore accounts and what not, the fact that they have offshore accounts is interesting.

Oh, gotcha.

 

[candrew]

So, while Romney has a larger nest egg, Obama's public pension is in fact, much larger than Romney's. Oh, and Obama does have a Cayman Island account as well as money invested in China.

https://www.politifact.com/wisconsi...-says-obama-also-has-investments-chinese-com/

I think you're conveniently missing the point. The allegation is that Romney had off-shore accounts for the express purpose of sheltering his money. What tax advantage would Obama have by these investments in a pension plan? Even your link concedes there is none.

As for the China thing. Hell I invested in mutual funds that derived from investments made in China around 6 or 7 years ago and made a killing. I think plenty of folks did. Nothing wrong or unethical with that (although it does deserve to be exposed). Might as well get something from them before they turn us into one giant sweat factory.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Oh, gotcha.

Should I laugh?

 

[nightmare3983]

Should I laugh?

Bahahahahahahahaha!

Oh wait, you were asking if YOU should laugh. Oops.

 

[candrew]

It's a little tougher with political grandstanding because these guys are speaking to a large audience of useful idiots instead of a room full of professionals at a conference. It's hard to moderate these without injecting a bias whether intended or not--or just perceived.

Ah, No. Romney wasn't trying to express an opinion or a viewpoint. This is nothing more than a simple binary situation that could easily be verified. Either Obama said it or he didn't say it. And he did. I don't think a room full of professionals is required to grasp that type of basic distinction.

The only people still confused about this are the right wing nut jobs that choose to be confused.

 

[Stoked]

Ah, No. Romney wasn't trying to express an opinion or a viewpoint. This is nothing more than a simple binary situation that could easily be verified. Either Obama said it or he didn't say it. And he did. I don't think a room full of professionals is required to grasp that type of basic distinction.

The only people still confused about this are the right wing nut jobs that choose to be confused.

Hahaha, I guess Candy Crowley herself is a right wing nut job.

 

[candrew]

Hahaha, I guess Candy Crowley herself is a right wing nut job.

If she is she is doing a horrible job of it.

She is getting skewered by the right wing media.

And deservedly so. Her supposed backtrack (which wasn't really a backtrack) after the debate was nothing more than a pathetic attempt at trying to be fair and balanced just for the sake of being fair and balanced.

 

[Stoked]

If she is she is doing a horrible job of it.

She is getting skewered by the right wing media.

And deservedly so. Her supposed backtrack (which wasn't really a backtrack) after the debate was nothing more than a pathetic attempt at trying to be fair and balanced just for the sake of being fair and balanced.

How did that hook taste?