The elephant in the room (Rudy Gobert)

[416Klawzz]

Will you all admit that you were wrong in saying:

1) Rudy is a top 10 player in the NBA
2) Teams around the league value Rudy at a higher level than Donovan
3) The Timberwolves are/were title contenders with Rudy

It's okay to give me the pat on the back I deserve for having the foresight to know these things a year ago. Mainly my son @Hearsky

I preached the same doctrine to Cy and the other Rudy supporters. Glad he's gone and is on the road to declining

 

[416Klawzz]

Gobert has been pretty good in MN. He still rebounds, gives them an efficient 13 ppg, and plays elite defense. Wolves fans don't hate him. He just hasn't been as good as he was for the Jazz.

The wolves fans all have buyers remorse on that trade

 

[MTS]

There seems to be a certain group of "fans" here who you rarely if ever see participate in game threads or other Jazz discussions, but throw up a thread about a player who left over a year ago and they all come flocking.

Which is interesting, because these are the same people who said those of us who liked and appreciated Gobert aren't REAL Jazz fans.

 

[YoungJefe]

There seems to be a certain group of "fans" here who you rarely if ever see participate in game threads or other Jazz discussions, but throw up a thread about a player who left over a year ago and they all come flocking.

Which is interesting, because these are the same people who said those of us who liked and appreciated Gobert aren't REAL Jazz fans.

I’m always lurking, I’ve been here for 5 years, I just get shook hearing you guys with such terrible takes

 

[MTS]

I’m always lurking, I’ve been here for 5 years, I just get shook hearing you guys with such terrible takes

lol, I wasn't even talking about you actually.

 

[YoungJefe]

lol, I wasn't even talking about you actually.

Can you admit I was right? Then I’ll leave the Rudy discussion behind.

 

[Hearsky]

The only ones that stood strong were myself and @LoPo

Otherwise known as "Dumb and Dumber".

 

[MTS]

Can you admit I was right? Then I’ll leave the Rudy discussion behind.

Oh hell yes.

Yep, you were right.

 

[fishonjazz]

When do you admit you were wrong about Don?

Rudy was a top 10 contributor to wins in the regular season during his peak Utah years. Playoffs not great.

Both players got huge hauls especially recontextualized in this off-season. And everyone should be happy we moved off both when we did.

I don’t remember your other point

Idk when or if I said anything different about him back in the day, but anything more than the above was incorrect. I admit it.

Good post

 

[YoungJefe]

Otherwise known as "Dumb and Dumber".

Dumb and dumber for recognizing Rudy for what he is? Overrated, locker room cancer, impossible to win with, on possibly the worst deal in the NBA?

 

[fishonjazz]

His best playoff series ever was his first.

I actually think his best individual performance was against the nuggets in the bubble when he had multiple 50 point games I think. Of course we lost that series but still. He was amazing

 

[LoPo]

When do you admit you were wrong about Don?

Rudy was a top 10 contributor to wins in the regular season during his peak Utah years. Playoffs not great.

Both players got huge hauls especially recontextualized in this off-season. And everyone should be happy we moved off both when we did.

I don’t remember your other point

Idk when or if I said anything different about him back in the day, but anything more than the above was incorrect. I admit it.

Nobody made any stupid comments about Don like saying he was a top 10 player in the league.

He was a more important playoff player for us than Rudy even though the system was built for Rudy.

But Don has gotten better in Cleveland in a more balanced NBA system. He plays with a PG yet still had a career year, top 10 in assists per game and made All NBA 2nd team on a team with two nonshooting bigs and no good SF at all.