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The FINAL COUNTDOWN - 50 Days to go

40 days. It's now time to start wandering the desert, roaming the wilderness, fasting day and night. For 40 more days and nights we will suffer my friends until the franchise is to be resurrected on May 12th. Do not lose hope but use this time to reflect, sacrifice and prepare for the joy of the little round ping pong balls ...


Also for good luck and lottery vibes .... obligatory red priestess pic

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40 days. It's now time to start wandering the desert, roaming the wilderness, fasting day and night. For 40 more days and nights we will suffer my friends until the franchise is to be resurrected on May 12th. Do not lose hope but use this time to reflect, sacrifice and prepare for the joy of the little round ping pong balls ...


Also for good luck and lottery vibes .... obligatory red priestess pic

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But sacrifices presuppose invisible, intelligent power that has the capacity to alter known quantum-mechanical properties. No Sir. We empiricists are suspicious of postulates.
 
Someone is bitter.
He actually has a pretty good point. Below is the full list of the lottery selections by the Utah Jazz in the last 15 years:

Enes Kanter
Alec Burks
Shabazz Muhammed
Dante Exum
Trey Lyles
Taylor Hendricks
Cody Williams

The list is pretty pathetic and does not include a single solid NBA starter. Has there been any other team with such horrible recent draft history for their lottery selections?
 
He actually has a pretty good point. Below is the full list of the lottery selections by the Utah Jazz in the last 15 years:

Enes Kanter
Alec Burks
Shabazz Muhammed
Dante Exum
Trey Lyles
Taylor Hendricks
Cody Williams

The list is pretty pathetic and does not include a single solid NBA starter. Has there been any other team with such horrible recent draft history for their lottery selections?
Add to that list with the Jazz luck when it comes to lotteries and coin flips, I think the fans have a legitimate reason to worry.
 
26 Days to go.

Please note i will be taking names of those cynical about our lottery luck. The naysayers if you like, the debbie downers. When we win the lottery these people will be shunned in the celebrations for their bad vibes. I will personally be villifying and mocking such heathens. Yes i'm talking to you LogGrad
 
26 Days to go.

Please note i will be taking names of those cynical about our lottery luck. The naysayers if you like, the debbie downers. When we win the lottery these people will be shunned in the celebrations for their bad vibes. I will personally be villifying and mocking such heathens. Yes i'm talking to you LogGrad
Luck has nothing to do with it. Money for the NBA does. So Silver will make sure that either San Antonio or Philly will secure the #1 pick, and the other will get either #2 or #3. It is written in the stars, as in the NBA must support their true stars or the money will not flow as intended. In the same vein as Luka mysteriously appearing in LA for a ham sandwich in return. The money engines of the NBA must be primed first and foremost. So the Jazz will end up somewhere #4 to #5. Book it.

I also would not be surprised if part of moving Luka to LA involved the NBA promising a top 3 pick for Dallas in return, so there is a really good chance the top 3 end up being #1 San Antonio, #2 Philly, #3 Dallas.


I would love to be wrong in this and I am hoping to eat a healthy helping of crow come June, and I will gladly do so should we get either #1 or #2. But the best we can realistically hope for is #3, but most likely we end up at #5.
 
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I can't wait to confirm that we got the 5th pick like the Pistons did twice.
are you saying the pistons had the worst record in the league twice and got the 5th pick both times? dang. that's horrible. were those the holland and ausar drafts? i think they probably did okay both times, but relative to what they could have gotten had they drafted higher that does hurt.
 
are you saying the pistons had the worst record in the league twice and got the 5th pick both times? dang. that's horrible. were those the holland and ausar drafts? i think they probably did okay both times, but relative to what they could have gotten had they drafted higher that does hurt.
The 2nd pick has won the draft several times and the worst pick has dropped to 5th twice in recent years.

We better pray (perhaps literally) that the law of averages steps in.
 
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Luck has nothing to do with it. Money for the NBA does. So Silver will make sure that either San Antonio or Philly will secure the #1 pick, and the other will get either #2 or #3.
It always kind of surprises me when people use SA as an example of a market that makes the NBA a lot of money if they've got good players. They're like one of the smallest markets in the NBA aren't they? The Spurs dominant years (along with the Knicks decades of suckitude) are one of the better arguments against the conspiracy theory that the NBA controls things so the largest markets get the biggest stars and the best championship chances.
 
It always kind of surprises me when people use SA as an example of a market that makes the NBA a lot of money if they've got good players. They're like one of the smallest markets in the NBA aren't they? The Spurs dominant years (along with the Knicks decades of suckitude) are one of the better arguments against the conspiracy theory that the NBA controls things so the largest markets get the biggest stars and the best championship chances.
We have thoroughly debunked the "San Antonio is a small market" myth in other threads. They are also a legacy franchise with deep roots and an international fan base who now have the 2nd most marketable star in the NBA in Wemby. It's absolutely in the NBA's best interest to see them succeed and give him the support he needs to be the next LeBron, at least from a marketing standpoint. Hence shutting him down for some very obscure and rare disorder this season while they are sucking to get him a second star to pair with, just like Duncan miraculously ended up there to support the Admiral.
 
Eh, I'll admit that I'm not digging too much deeper into this than just a google search on the number of TVs that are usually tuned in to their games.

I still think all those things you say about SA having deep roots and an international fanbase happened because they got lucky and drafted Duncan and then managed the team really well for decades. I don't think their value predated that enough to justify the NBA intentionally turning them into a powerhouse. They do have Wemby, but if the NBA was funneling him intentionally somewhere that could showcase him, they pretty easily could have sent him to the Rockets or the Mavs. The Spurs obviously shut him down in order to try to pair a good drafted player with him, but that doesn't mean they're going to get it.

So, I think SA is maybe a valuable market because they got lucky, but I don't think they were a valuable enough market without it that the NBA would have bothered enough to influence that luck to make it happen.
And mostly, a lottery conspiracy is just a thing that would have to happen at too many levels with too many people in on it, with too many incentives to make some cash by selling it out. And they don't have to rig the lottery in order to get the product they want on the screen. The legitimate rules already favor that happening.
 
Eh, I'll admit that I'm not digging too much deeper into this than just a google search on the number of TVs that are usually tuned in to their games.

I still think all those things you say about SA having deep roots and an international fanbase happened because they got lucky and drafted Duncan and then managed the team really well for decades. I don't think their value predated that enough to justify the NBA intentionally turning them into a powerhouse. They do have Wemby, but if the NBA was funneling him intentionally somewhere that could showcase him, they pretty easily could have sent him to the Rockets or the Mavs. The Spurs obviously shut him down in order to try to pair a good drafted player with him, but that doesn't mean they're going to get it.

So, I think SA is maybe a valuable market because they got lucky, but I don't think they were a valuable enough market without it that the NBA would have bothered enough to influence that luck to make it happen.
And mostly, a lottery conspiracy is just a thing that would have to happen at too many levels with too many people in on it, with too many incentives to make some cash by selling it out. And they don't have to rig the lottery in order to get the product they want on the screen. The legitimate rules already favor that happening.
It would have around 38 people in it. The owners and some at the league to facilitate. That is about it. Not unreasonable at all.
 
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