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The Heat have officially blown it.

Borat said:
I remember a few years ago many Jazz fans were laughing at Cuban, how he always tried to bring star players in, making trades, try different coaches. People were pointing to the Jazz, how we have stability, few trades, same coach for decades, and we are better off because of that. Well, Cuban kept trading, kept changing coaches, and after just 11 years he has a title to show for it. This is really an example of having a will and balls to win.
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Well I think - like Daniel Snyder and the Redskins - in many respects it was laughable. The difference with this team was Dallas focused more on "role players" (Chandler, Haywood, Marion) rather than the flashy high-scoring types (Antoine Walker, Antwawn Jamison, Raef LaFrentz, Nick Van Exel, Keith Van Horn). They would always go after the biggest FA fish in the pond - even if that guy happened to be Erik Dampier, and it's not like the Devin Harris draft-day trade, or the Kidd trade in '08 paid immediate dividends. Dallas also thought long and hard about acquiring Al Jefferson but decided to pass on the "scorer" instead for the defense/toughness of Haywood. If you're going to make tons of moves - they have to make sense and Dallas gradually figured out how to build a championship team instead of a fantasy team.

Borat said:
Miami should slow down enough by the time young Jazz advance to the Finals...
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I love your optimism.
 
...sitting Peja was a very smart move....and they didn't miss his 3 point shooting anyway, as other players picked up the slack. So he gets a ring and contributed in the other early round series. He's deserving.
 
billyshelby said:
No question Dallas benefits from being able to stock the team with depth. They're not a great example of what's right with the NBA system, but the overspending MO has failed more often than it's worked. Everything they did on the floor is what basketball is all about.
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I cannot rep you but I would rep THE **** out of this.
 
vslice02 said:
Dallas also thought long and hard about acquiring Al Jefferson but decided to pass on the "scorer" instead for the defense/toughness of Haywood. If you're going to make tons of moves - they have to make sense and Dallas gradually figured out how to build a championship team instead of a fantasy team.
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The reason why they didn't get AL was KOC, not the fact they decided to pass on him. AJ was their #1 choice, but KOC made a better offer to the Wolves.
 
Borat said:
The reason why they didn't get AL was KOC, not the fact they decided to pass on him. AJ was their #1 choice, but KOC made a better offer to the Wolves.
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More likely Dallas, which is stocked with talent, wasn’t willing to give up what it would’ve taken to get Jefferson. The Jazz basically got Jefferson for not much but mainly salary relief for Minny. A black hole on offense, so-so on defense big like Jefferson would’ve been a bad fit for a team with Dirk on it anyway or quite a few other teams for that matter.
 
The Thriller said:
No one is talking about it...

But Rick Carlisle is a heck of a coach.

While the media is slurping Dirkmania, everyone is forgetting about Rick. He brought a toughness to the team that lacked in Nellie. Yet, he made adjustments and was creative enough to maintain the team's dynamic approach. He adjusted strategies and changed his lineup. Injecting Barea into the starting 5 was brilliant. Using the Custodian when Haywood went down was fantastic. And sitting Peja's veteran butt was something that as Jazz fans, we could only dream our coaching staff of doing.

Dirk was fantastic. Jet, Barea, Kidd, Marion, and Chandler deserve credit. But without Carlisle, this team probably isn't holding up the trophy right now.
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Well said. That was one helluva coaching job for the reasons you mentioned. Also, what about the defense? The Mavs never played defense before, and this year they shut down the best teams and best players. Amazing.
 
I'm not sure why so many announcers are acting like this Mavs team is already done for. As if they couldn't repeat.

Marion, Dirk, and Terry have just as much if not more juice than KG, Ray Allen, Piece, Kobe, and Odom.

And it wasn't like the Mavs were at full strength either. They were missing their 2nd best player, Caron Butler.

Kidd's contributions to this team are already minimal statistically. If they feel they need more scoring, they can easily just put in a young JJ Barea.

Chandler though brittle, isn't too terribly old. They still have Haywood, who is good enough...

A great coach who isn't going anywhere. And the best owner in sports with tons of money to spend.

I just don't understand why people are acting like the mavs winning this year was an outlier or something. I think they have just as good of a chance as anyone of repeating.

I'd by far rather be the Mavs right now than the Lakers (strangled with an aging Kobe, no PG, no bench, and ugly contracts with Artest and Bynum), the Celtics (no youth other than Rondo), the Spurs (time to rebuild), or the Bulls (no one on their team other than Rose. Boozer's contract will strangle them just like AK's did to us).
 
zman1527 said:
Well said. That was one helluva coaching job for the reasons you mentioned. Also, what about the defense? The Mavs never played defense before, and this year they shut down the best teams and best players. Amazing.
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It's interesting how Rick Carlisle used the Doc Rivers philosophy where he says, "I'm not a great defensive coach, so I'm going to delegate ALL defensive responsibilities to someone who's better" - Dwane Casey for Dallas (Thibbideau/Frank for Boston) and let him run my defense.
 
I'm happy for the Mavs. I hope LBJ wins none of the championships, he's simply not a champion.
 
vslice02 said:
It's interesting how Rick Carlisle used the Doc Rivers philosophy where he says, "I'm not a great defensive coach, so I'm going to delegate ALL defensive responsibilities to someone who's better" - Dwane Casey for Dallas (Thibbideau/Frank for Boston) and let him run my defense.
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Yes, and that too is great coaching: getting great assistants and letting them do their stuff.

Anyone know what Ty was responsible for with the Jazz?
 
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