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I will take you at your word that you are not spinning at all but asking for clirification. I hope I provided it.

On how we view white pride, and what it should mean, is indeed where we part ways. I view what racist white groups are doing as horribly damaging. Their usage of it and groups that incessanty cry racism over everything, are disgusting and taint our society. This very debate is an example of that.

We've come too far in our 'relationship' on this board for me to deal with you in bad faith. I don't always agree with you but I've learned to respect you and appreciate (what I consider) the reasonable and measured approach you take here.

Believe it or not but I actually read through all the posts on threads like this and often find reason to reconsider what I believe.

It was participating on a board like this that was instrumental in changing my views on same-sex marriage. I used to be rabidly opposed to it, but after reading, listening and engaging with others holding different views, I become convinced that they were right and I was wrong.
 
Who really cares what people are proud of? Personally I think it's stupid to be proud of what color you are verse the culture you came from, but who really cares? Obviously if somebody being proud of being white causes them to act negatively towards somebody who isn't white, or somebody being proud of their black skin causes them to act negatively towards somebody who isn't, then we have a problem.

I could give two ****s what any of you are proud about though, it doesn't affect my life at all. Maybe we need to stop using skin color as a crutch for all of our problems/successes and start realizing that our actions dictate who we are, not the color of our skin. This can't be that difficult.





/Still gonna always say that white people can't jump, black people can't swim, french people are ******* (wimps), and all of that good stuff. Cause America.
 
/Still gonna always say that white people can't jump, black people can't swim, french people are ******* (wimps), and all of that good stuff. Cause America.

I'm proud of you
 
How do you celebrate your "white pride"?

By taking selfies of my tiny penis. #atleastimnotasian #duckrogers #hottttnikkk

Who really cares what people are proud of? Personally I think it's stupid to be proud of what color you are verse the culture you came from, but who really cares? Obviously if somebody being proud of being white causes them to act negatively towards somebody who isn't white, or somebody being proud of their black skin causes them to act negatively towards somebody who isn't, then we have a problem.

I could give two ****s what any of you are proud about though, it doesn't affect my life at all. Maybe we need to stop using skin color as a crutch for all of our problems/successes and start realizing that our actions dictate who we are, not the color of our skin. This can't be that difficult.





/Still gonna always say that white people can't jump, black people can't swim, french people are ******* (wimps), and all of that good stuff. Cause America.

Don't forget teh gays and tranny's.
 
Don't forget teh gays and tranny's.

Oh don't worry, I'll make fun of them too.

I'm an equal-opportunist when it comes to laughing at people. If you wear a feather scarf, capris, neon skinny jeans and talk with a lisp, I'm gonna laugh at you…cause they're probably laughing at my plaid redneck outfit (or just drooling at me). Incidentally, Dala fits that entire category minus the lisp.
 
Oh don't worry, I'll make fun of them too.

I'm an equal-opportunist when it comes to laughing at people. If you wear a feather scarf, capris, neon skinny jeans and talk with a lisp, I'm gonna laugh at you…cause they're probably laughing at my plaid redneck outfit (or just drooling at me). Incidentally, Dala fits that entire category minus the lisp.

Guaranteed he has a lisp.
 
White privilege does not exist.

Put out two identical resumes, except for the name, on a job site. Give one of the the fist name of DeMare, or any similar name culturally associated with black people, and another a name associated with white people, say Bradley. Make sure to check the EEOC boxes appropriately. Get back to me on the difference in the response level, and then tell me there is no such thing as white privilege.
 
Do a social experiment. Go around telling differing groups of people how proud you are to be white. Pay attention to your responses.

If you don't feel pride in it, you must be ashamed of it? There is no middle ground?

I'm neither proud nor ashamed to be 5'11'', to have brown eyes, nor to be white. I just am. I recognize that I get some preferential treatment from the first and some from the third, but that does not make me ashamed of it.
 
If you don't feel pride in it, you must be ashamed of it? There is no middle ground?

I'm neither proud nor ashamed to be 5'11'', to have brown eyes, nor to be white. I just am. I recognize that I get some preferential treatment from the first and some from the third, but that does not make me ashamed of it.

You're a day late and a dollar short. That debate sailed.
 
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