The Jazz are dead last in.....
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Well when you play slower with less possessions I think less rebounds is to be expected right?
Correct, injuries to Favors has not helped this either.
Fewer possessions also leads to fewer opportunities for assists.
Having said that last in the league still sucks. They can improve and get out of last or even bottom 4th, slow pace and lower possessions per game or not.
Our offense had always been built on Favors low post scoring and then Hayward.
Now with Favors having a bit of a chronic health issue, I wonder if our offense will change over time to be geared towards Hill, Hood, Hayward and Lyles? i.e., faster, more running, and more 3pt shooting.
Jazz last in pace this season (yet again) by a mile. Time for a new coach?
Our offense had always been built on Favors low post scoring and then Hayward.
Now with Favors having a bit of a chronic health issue, I wonder if our offense will change over time to be geared towards Hill, Hood, Hayward and Lyles? i.e., faster, more running, and more 3pt shooting.
Yup, and that's what should be more focused on, though it's not great being last in rebounding.
Still, the Jazz average 41.2 boards a game and their opponents average 40.8 boards a game for a positive differential of 0.4 boards a game. While that's not amazing it does put the Jazz right in the middle of the pack at 15th.
Compared to say a team like the Nets who are 7th in the league in boards at 45.5 a game but still have managed a -4.5 differential.
It's a pretty much identical story in assists. Last in the league but 14th in differential with a positive differential of, you guessed it, 0.4 assists.
Why is this still a thing? Pace has no correlation to winning.
Plenty of studies online affirm our home altitude advantage. I assume we are squandering that by playing so dammed slow. Perhaps you disagree.
Does playing slow mean less moving? I think we are grinding teams down. I have not looked this year but last year I believe we had our players running quite a bit, maybe highest in the league?
Half court offense with a ton of movement keeps player running a lot.
Every year more than half the league says that they're going to play at a faster tempo. It's just bait to get the fans excited. You play at the pace that suits your personnel. I'm pretty sure Quin said the same thing the year before, nothing changed. He's said multiple times that pace has no correlation to winning, and he's absolutely correct.
He wants to get the offense starter earlier, it doesn't change the identity of this team. We want to move the ball on offense to attack from multiple angles and defensively we want to force teams to score against our set defense. The philosophy hasn't changed, and as long as it stays the same we will play at a very slow pace.
I have many criticisms of Quin, but people need to get over this idea that playing faster = better team. Besides, Jerry Sloan never coached a Stockton and Malone team that played above the league average in pace. Should we have looked for a different coach then? Did he squander our altitude advantage by not playing fast?
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Jazz are 24th in assists per possession. I hate Quin the Eskimo's offense.
If he really wanted this then Shelvin Mack wouldn't see any floor time.
Yes.
Anyway, the Jazz weren't as slow as you think under Sloan. The best DWill/Boozer/Okur teams were in the top-10 in pace:
https://www.espn.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/paceFactor/year/2008
The crappy teams before that played more slowly.
Not sure about the Stockton/Malone Jazz. Is it possible to find these stats back then?