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I think the author forgets the mobility of Favors. He is very fast and able to guard players on the perimeter that others bigs just can't. He's very unique in that regard. A true shot blocking big who is not a major vulnerability on the perimeter.
 
I think the author forgets the mobility of Favors. He is very fast and able to guard players on the perimeter that others bigs just can't. He's very unique in that regard. A true shot blocking big who is not a major vulnerability on the perimeter.

Yeah, he's practically Draymond on a lesser team
 
I apologies for now drowning myself in the Kool aid Ala all the other mouth breathers in this and other threads. I should just accept 4th place as the true world changing victory it is and fight over the cookie like the rest of you in the circle jerk. I truly apologizing for wanting a championship rather than a constant rebuild cycle. I will try harder to be a true jazz fans and practically ****** every time one of the major media outlets say we "might" be pretty good this year. I just didn't have my standards setting low enough to match the rest of the board and obviously it struck a nerve. I apologizing for bumping up against all of your delicate sensitivities and throw in an enthusiastic "yes we might!"
 
I apologies for now drowning myself in the Kool aid Ala all the other mouth breathers in this and other threads. I should just accept 4th place as the true world changing victory it is and fight over the cookie like the rest of you in the circle jerk. I truly apologizing for wanting a championship rather than a constant rebuild cycle. I will try harder to be a true jazz fans and practically ****** every time one of the major media outlets say we "might" be pretty good this year. I just didn't have my standards setting low enough to match the rest of the board and obviously it struck a nerve. I apologizing for bumping up against all of your delicate sensitivities and throw in an enthusiastic "yes we might!"

I have sinuses! I cannot help it!
 
I apologies for now drowning myself in the Kool aid Ala all the other mouth breathers in this and other threads. I should just accept 4th place as the true world changing victory it is

The idea of a 4th seed does not require Kool Aid, it is a pretty realistic possibility with this roster. If you don't think so, your drink might be spiked with barbiturates.

Pleas provide names of posters who expressed satisfaction with an "end-game" as 4th place? ................... (I hear crickets)

What I hear is excitement about progress towards longer-term goal of winning a title.

It seems to bother you that other people take pleasure at the notion of progress.

It would have been awesome to jump from lottery to title. It would also be cool to date Gisele. Some want to live in Disney World, others have more grounded and incremental goals.
 
I think the Jazz's best line-up is going to be...

Exum / Hood / Hayward / Lyles / Gobert

Plenty of defensive length and rebounding. Plenty of spacing and pressure on the rim offensively.
 
The idea of a 4th seed does not require Kool Aid, it is a pretty realistic possibility with this roster. If you don't think so, your drink might be spiked with barbiturates.

Pleas provide names of posters who expressed satisfaction with an "end-game" as 4th place? ................... (I hear crickets)

What I hear is excitement about progress towards longer-term goal of winning a title.

It seems to bother you that other people take pleasure at the notion of progress.

It would have been awesome to jump from lottery to title. It would also be cool to date Gisele. Some want to live in Disney World, others have more grounded and incremental goals.

If you want names just scan through this and countless other threads at the insults being thrown my way because I expressed an opinion I was less than satisfied with "ok" and wanted to see the jazz FO swing for the fences. In the wins prediction thread i said I would expect at least 45 wins this season, which is improvement, and wouldn't be surprised to see up to 47.of course that gets ignored in the name of trolling because no one can counter the core of my argument about this offseason which is that it really gets us no closer to a ring realistically and I'm tired of being stuck in the spin cycle. Apparently everyone who has the insecurity and feels the need to hurl invective, even in threads I haven't even posted in yet, are those fully satisfied with the "the media like us, they really really like us" ******** and it obviously sets them off when someone pisses reality in their cheerios that we all will not be any closer to the ring. I'm just getting sick of being trolled in every single thread because 1) I'm...along with franklin ....the only one being in the slightest realistic and 2) I am NOT satisfied with a first round exit. I want to see some real change but that is a real **** block for those jonsing to rim job the FO for bringing us some more role players that are probably better than the last role players. Obviously we have some VERY insecure posters here or they could discuss the issue without all the unwarranted trolling and insults.
 
I apologies for now drowning myself in the Kool aid Ala all the other mouth breathers in this and other threads. I should just accept 4th place as the true world changing victory it is and fight over the cookie like the rest of you in the circle jerk. I truly apologizing for wanting a championship rather than a constant rebuild cycle. I will try harder to be a true jazz fans and practically ****** every time one of the major media outlets say we "might" be pretty good this year. I just didn't have my standards setting low enough to match the rest of the board and obviously it struck a nerve. I apologizing for bumping up against all of your delicate sensitivities and throw in an enthusiastic "yes we might!"

After the Kanter trade, the team was well on their way to turning the corner before getting hammered by injuries. It seems to me the negative nancys on the board think our FO sucks because we should be able to lose multiple key players for a significant number of games and somehow never skip a beat. I'd call it unrealistic expectations, but whatever.

As for wanting a championship instead of being satisfied with mediocrity, I believe you and your kind have been inconsistent in your constant complaining. FE, the big complaint last year was not signing a replacement for Exum after he went down. No doubt, Utah could have tried to sign the best available option in a desperate attempt to make the playoffs immediately. Instead, they waited patiently and took their lumps for another year. Either you support rebuilding slowly and patiently, or you want the team to compete immediately, even if it comprises the bigger picture somewhat. Can't have it both ways.

Utah could definitely suffer from injury issues again, just like any other team in the league. And if they do, no doubt there will be a handful of eyeores claiming they were right all along that it somehow proves the FO to be incompetent. However, if the team remains healthy, you can bet your *** there will be copious amounts of crow to be eaten. It will be interesting to see which malcontents disappear from the board, and which ones man up and eat the crow they have earned.
 
If you want names just scan through this and countless other threads at the insults being thrown my way because I expressed an opinion I was less than satisfied with "ok" and wanted to see the jazz FO swing for the fences. In the wins prediction thread i said I would expect at least 45 wins this season, which is improvement, and wouldn't be surprised to see up to 47.of course that gets ignored in the name of trolling because no one can counter the core of my argument about this offseason which is that it really gets us no closer to a ring realistically and I'm tired of being stuck in the spin cycle. Apparently everyone who has the insecurity and feels the need to hurl invective, even in threads I haven't even posted in yet, are those fully satisfied with the "the media like us, they really really like us" ******** and it obviously sets them off when someone pisses reality in their cheerios that we all will not be any closer to the ring. I'm just getting sick of being trolled in every single thread because 1) I'm...along with franklin ....the only one being in the slightest realistic and 2) I am NOT satisfied with a first round exit. I want to see some real change but that is a real **** block for those jonsing to rim job the FO for bringing us some more role players that are probably better than the last role players. Obviously we have some VERY insecure posters here or they could discuss the issue without all the unwarranted trolling and insults.

The problem is you've never fully presented your case against Dennis Lindsey. If your only problem is Joe Johnson and George Hill, that's silly. They are short term talent infusions that won't effect the Jazz ability to sign or resign anyone long term.

Was it trading the draft pick? There is usually one all star that goes 12 or later at best. This was a particularly crap shoot of a draft. Draft Express, which covers the draft year round, was off by 20 spots around our pick. I don't remember seeing you in the draft thread clamoring for any of these guys either.
 
I apologies for now drowning myself in the Kool aid Ala all the other mouth breathers in this and other threads. I should just accept 4th place as the true world changing victory it is and fight over the cookie like the rest of you in the circle jerk. I truly apologizing for wanting a championship rather than a constant rebuild cycle. I will try harder to be a true jazz fans and practically ****** every time one of the major media outlets say we "might" be pretty good this year. I just didn't have my standards setting low enough to match the rest of the board and obviously it struck a nerve. I apologizing for bumping up against all of your delicate sensitivities and throw in an enthusiastic "yes we might!"
How many teams go from lotto to #1?
I think the Jazz's best line-up is going to be...

Exum / Hood / Hayward / Lyles / Gobert

Plenty of defensive length and rebounding. Plenty of spacing and pressure on the rim offensively.
My heart says Exum / Hood / Hayward / Favors / Gobert.

But my ridiculously big brain says switch Hill with Exum.
If you want names just scan through this and countless other threads at the insults being thrown my way because I expressed an opinion I was less than satisfied with "ok" and wanted to see the jazz FO swing for the fences. In the wins prediction thread i said I would expect at least 45 wins this season, which is improvement, and wouldn't be surprised to see up to 47.of course that gets ignored in the name of trolling because no one can counter the core of my argument about this offseason which is that it really gets us no closer to a ring realistically and I'm tired of being stuck in the spin cycle. Apparently everyone who has the insecurity and feels the need to hurl invective, even in threads I haven't even posted in yet, are those fully satisfied with the "the media like us, they really really like us" ******** and it obviously sets them off when someone pisses reality in their cheerios that we all will not be any closer to the ring. I'm just getting sick of being trolled in every single thread because 1) I'm...along with franklin ....the only one being in the slightest realistic and 2) I am NOT satisfied with a first round exit. I want to see some real change but that is a real **** block for those jonsing to rim job the FO for bringing us some more role players that are probably better than the last role players. Obviously we have some VERY insecure posters here or they could discuss the issue without all the unwarranted trolling and insults.

Who could we have realistically signed that would've propelled the Jazz past the other 29 teams, and don't say Durant, because he was never an option, and if u don't give a definite answer to this, u need to STFU!!
 
How many teams go from lotto to #1?

My heart says Exum / Hood / Hayward / Favors / Gobert.

But my ridiculously big brain says switch Hill with Exum.


Who could we have realistically signed that would've propelled the Jazz past the other 29 teams, and don't say Durant, because he was never an option, and if u don't give a definite answer to this, u need to STFU!!

Was not Wade available? How bout Derozan too?
 
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