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The Official Blow up the team thread.

mellow said:
Imagine the Jazz like the Charlotte Bobcats, it could be worse.

I know it has been better, I agree it could be better, I am uncertain if losing is the way to win in the long run. I'm just at a time and place where I am glad for what I have.
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Imagine if the Jazz were OKC, playing their young players and sucking for a few years to where they are now. Being average is being stuck on a ferris wheel for your entire life.
 
Chad Feldheimer said:
Stupid loyal non fairweather fans!
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My point is that the franchise seems to be more about selling the Miller brand while maintaining a stable cash cow, than it is about developing a cold, calculated approach to building a championship caliber dynasty. Just winning enough ballgames each season to sniff the playoffs is not enough for me personally, so the Millers won't be getting any of my money.

It's your money, so if you're happy with the product, then keep on buying. Larry's stubbornness was at least backed up by a competitive fire which seriously lacks in the rest of the family.
 
spycam1 said:
Their absolute ceiling is a second round exit...and for what? They're all gone after this season anyway. Begin the youth movement.
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You are being generous about the second round. I doubt they do any better than last year. Fortunately for Ty, he has his excuse built in now: if only we had MO, we coulda been a 3 seed or a 2 seed! You betchya.
 
How many high first round picks did it take the Clippers, Timberwolves, or the Hawks to become good teams?

How many high first round picks have the Wizards, Bobcats, Kings, and the Raptors had?

The Thunder played the powerball and won. You want to take the same odds?
 
LunaticWolf said:
How many high first round picks did it take the Clippers, Timberwolves, or the Hawks to become good teams?

How many high first round picks have the Wizards, Bobcats, Kings, and the Raptors had?

The Thunder played the powerball and won. You want to take the same odds?
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The jazz situation is different than the teams you mentioned.... none of those teams got 4 top 12 picks in 2 years.
Those teams aquired young talented players over a longer time span and by the time they got thier 4th lottery pick, thier first lottery picks contract was up and they were out the door.... plus since they were just getting one pick per year, they were never able to develop chemisty.

The jazz are in a unique and lucky position. The jazz got 4 young talented players very quickly and have an opportunity to use them to develop chemistry and get better much more quickly than those teams you mentioned....Another good position that the jazz are in is the fact that all four of thier guys fit well together and can all play at the same time with one another..... but it is being screwed up because they are not getting to play as much as they should.
 
slc said:
Jazz don't have a Kevin Durant though.
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Well most teams don't but we might have if we just sucked enough. The reality is the Jazz had no chance to even get one because they hadn't sucked bad enough. I would be more than happy to suck for two years to get Wiggins. I would even have been happy if the Jazz had gotten Lillard or Irving.
 
fishonjazz said:
Those teams aquired young talented players over a longer time span and by the time they got thier 4th lottery pick, thier first lottery picks contract was up and they were out the door.... plus since they were just getting one pick per year, they were never able to develop chemisty.
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Yoy mean they picked **** players as the draft is filled with them.

Charlotte has picked 9 times in the lottery since they became a team 8 years ago.
Wizards/Cavaliers have picked 3 the last 3 years in the lottery and are probably headed for several more.
Kings have picked 7 times in 7 years
It took Portland 4 picks in 3 years to make the playoffs
Minnesota 7 picks to make the playoffs again.
Clippers spanned 9 years, making the playoffs once, with 8 first round picks to get where they are now.
Memphis took 5 picks to get where they are now
Atlanta 5 picks to make the playoffs
OKC took 7 Picks in 7 years not to mention that things got bad enough they had to sell and switch cities.

Then you have New York who traded away their draft picks every year they could and got nothing with it.
 
LunaticWolf said:
Yoy mean they picked **** players as the draft is filled with them.

Charlotte has picked 9 times in the lottery since they became a team 8 years ago.
Wizards/Cavaliers have picked 3 the last 3 years in the lottery and are probably headed for several more.
Kings have picked 7 times in 7 years
It took Portland 4 picks in 3 years to make the playoffs
Minnesota 7 picks to make the playoffs again.
Clippers spanned 9 years, making the playoffs once, with 8 first round picks to get where they are now.
Memphis took 5 picks to get where they are now
Atlanta 5 picks to make the playoffs
OKC took 7 Picks in 7 years not to mention that things got bad enough they had to sell and switch cities.
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Ummm, like i said the jazz are in a unique situation. Thanks for helping to prove my point. Those teams had to suck for years to get the kind of picks that the jazz got in 2 years.
I ask you again: Which of those teams got 4 top 12 picks in 2 years? Oh ya none of them.
 
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