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The Official Please Retire Jerry Sloan Thread

In times like these we need to turn to our leader for guidance...

"it felt good to watch them play a little harder,” Jazz coach Jerry Sloan said, “And when you play hard, you always have a chance to win.”
 
In times like these we need to turn to our leader for guidance...

"it felt good to watch them play a little harder,” Jazz coach Jerry Sloan said, “And when you play hard, you always have a chance to win.”

If you just went with what Bellichick said in his post game interviews you'd think he was a moron too.
 
If you just went with what Bellichick said in his post game interviews you'd think he was a moron too.

He is. What has his team won in the past 5-6 seasons? That's right: nothing. Not even with a QB setting records or his team going undefeated during the season. He couldn't get them over the hump. ****, he couldn't even win the first playoff game the past two years. He needs to retire!
 
We all know that we aren't going anywhere with this fool, so can somebody (like Greg Miller, his young wife, or even Deron Williams) please coax him into retirement?

Anyways, I'm secretly hoping that we lose out from here so that Sloan will finally see that it is time to move on from the Jazz. I can't wait for the day when he will ride off on his John Deere to his farm where nobody will have to question his substitution patterns, among other things.

So then without him we can sink to the depths of the dregs of the league, but at least our constant missing of the playoffs will get us higher picks. Yay, sounds great.
 
I dont think Ive ever said its completely Sloan fault. To be sure the players are to share some of the responsibility but since we've change myriad players since Ive been watching (1992) why not change the coach? Why can you, for one second, entertain the thought that Sloans time has passed and that the game has changed and that Sloan is from a bygone era? WHy is that so hard to fathom or understand?

Why does anyone get to decide when they want to quit? Its that egotistical thinking that ruins organizations...the one person is above the franchise.

I'm not sure the game has passed Sloan by. Given his success compared to most other coaches in the league, I'd say it has not. He's not won a championship lately not due to bad coaching but due to inferior talent, IMHO.

That said, my beef with Sloan always has been that he appears unaccountable. Can't win on the road last few years? Doesn't Sloan share at least some of the blame for failure to prepare and motivate? Lose winnable games down the stretch last two years that would have improved our playoff seeding? Doesn't Sloan share at least some of the blame for choking down the stretch? (Ok, last year it was a lot on Boozer for skipping the final game with Phoenix that he cold have played in, albeit with some pain.) Can't muster any kind of serious challenge against Lakers last few years in playoffs? Doesn't Sloan share at least some of the blame for team's failure to show up?

The patter seems to be that when the Jazz fail, the organization looks at everyone and everywhere for a solution, but never at Sloan. Is HE to blame? Well, if we think coaches and coaching matters, how can he not be at least part of it? Is it possible that he's a major part of it? I don't know, but I'd like to think that the Jazz organization is at least willing to consider the possibility, but it does not appear to be so.

Heck, other iconic coaches have been shown the door: Tom Landry (who won titles), Bud Grant (another underachiever who couldn't get over the hump), Bobby Bowden (who won titles), etc. Why is Sloan untouchable and unaccountable? I don't think that's a healthy position for the franchise to be in. Again, I'm not advocating that the Jazz dump him, but I AM advocating that it be willing to consider it, and that it look at Sloan as objectively as it presumably does at the players.
 
I'm not sure the game has passed Sloan by. Given his success compared to most other coaches in the league, I'd say it has not. He's not won a championship lately not due to bad coaching but due to inferior talent, IMHO.

That said, my beef with Sloan always has been that he appears unaccountable. Can't win on the road last few years? Doesn't Sloan share at least some of the blame for failure to prepare and motivate? Lose winnable games down the stretch last two years that would have improved our playoff seeding? Doesn't Sloan share at least some of the blame for choking down the stretch? (Ok, last year it was a lot on Boozer for skipping the final game with Phoenix that he cold have played in, albeit with some pain.) Can't muster any kind of serious challenge against Lakers last few years in playoffs? Doesn't Sloan share at least some of the blame for team's failure to show up?

The patter seems to be that when the Jazz fail, the organization looks at everyone and everywhere for a solution, but never at Sloan. Is HE to blame? Well, if we think coaches and coaching matters, how can he not be at least part of it? Is it possible that he's a major part of it? I don't know, but I'd like to think that the Jazz organization is at least willing to consider the possibility, but it does not appear to be so.

Heck, other iconic coaches have been shown the door: Tom Landry (who won titles), Bud Grant (another underachiever who couldn't get over the hump), Bobby Bowden (who won titles), etc. Why is Sloan untouchable and unaccountable? I don't think that's a healthy position for the franchise to be in. Again, I'm not advocating that the Jazz dump him, but I AM advocating that it be willing to consider it, and that it look at Sloan as objectively as it presumably does at the players.

Why? Complacency, comfort, satisfaction with butts in seats, fear of Sloan, worship of Sloan, fear of change.

PS: You stated he has not won a championship lately. Lately? How about never.
 
I have been saying this for years now, under my old name. Angrynemesis.

Makes me wonder, can you be a happy nemesis? Or an even-keeled nemesis? How about a serene nemesis?
 
He is. What has his team won in the past 5-6 seasons? That's right: nothing. Not even with a QB setting records or his team going undefeated during the season. He couldn't get them over the hump. ****, he couldn't even win the first playoff game the past two years. He needs to retire!

Ironically, Belichick gets it done with adapting strategy and pulling out all the stops in his game plan. He's a huge student of the game and changes his strategy as the times and personnel change.

This is, of course, in stark contrast to Sloan who will run the same damn thing until hell freezes over and settle for "pretty good" instead of "notably the best in the business".

A better NBA comparison to 'chick in the NBA is Pop.
 
It's idiotic to say it's entirely Sloans fault. It's amazing how some fans think they know everything, and think they could do a better job! A coach can teach offense and preach defense and motivate all they want, but the players have to choose to listen to the coach choose to be invested in the team concept, choose to be motivated and so forth.

You will be hard pressed to find as many coaches who've been as successful as Sloan sure he hasn't won it all but, one could argue that he went up against the greatest player of all time, and fell short. How many teams have beaten him. Jordan even went on to say the jazz gave his Bulls their toughest challenge. Has Sloan won it all? No, has he won coach of the year? No, what makes a great coach is someone who stands the test of time! Many coaches who've won a championship or who've won coach of the year have flamed out a year or two later. It is my opinion that the Jazz would not be hear if not for Sloan. He deserves to be here till he deems it a career.

who said it was entirely Sloan's fault? Yes, we have all heard the MJ greatest player of all time blah blah blah. The team is clearly not playing hard. Who else besides the coach should be held accountable? If the team loses to inferior teams who should be held accountable? Why should Jerry be able to "deem it a career"? This isn't working for Penn ST it didn't work for Florida ST.
 
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