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The Official "Who won the trade" thread

Who got the better of the Dwill trade?

  • Utah

    Votes: 26 45.6%

  • Jersey

    Votes: 10 17.5%

  • Very close, leaning Utah

    Votes: 16 28.1%

  • Very close, leaning Jersey

    Votes: 5 8.8%
  • Total voters
    57
I think the chances of D.Will staying with the Nets is 50-50 at best, giving NJ a lot of risk. The Jazz traded one lotto pick for three, plus Devin Harris. It's a good move.

And on top of that, while the Jazz are saying that they did this trade to manage risk and whatnot for the sake of damage control and out of respect to D.Will, I actually think the Jazz FO decided to trade D.Will opportunistically when his value is as high as it's ever going to get, and when NJ was desperate enough to give them a significant package.

Having an elite point guard is great, but having an elite big or elite scorer translates to more wins. D.Will wasn't generating wins, despite his stellar numbers. I know we need more shooting and rebounding, but D.Will can't carry a team. He's a system guy. Lets see how great he looks in NJ's 'system'. Plus his defensive efficiency isn't that great.

I don't think D.Will can carry a franchise. He needs two elite players and wing shooters in order for him to be in a contending situation, same as any top-tier PG. I think you still need to build a franchise around a go-to scorer and dominant big man.
 
Catchall said:
Having an elite point guard is great, but having an elite big or elite scorer translates to more wins. D.Will wasn't generating wins, despite his stellar numbers. I know we need more shooting and rebounding, but D.Will can't carry a team. He's a system guy. Lets see how great he looks in NJ's 'system'. Plus his defensive efficiency isn't that great.

I don't think D.Will can carry a franchise. He needs two elite players and wing shooters in order for him to be in a contending situation, same as any top-tier PG. I think you still need to build a franchise around a go-to scorer and dominant big man.
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It's been mentioned many times in the past, but most teams that win championships don't do so with their best player being a point guard.

If the Jazz can go out and get a wing that can score at will, and Favors develops into elite PF, then MAYBE Utah wins this trade.
 
Jazz win big.

Harris will be good - albeit not as good as D-Will on offense.

Quite frankly, I think he'll be better on defense.

Favors, if not a dominant scorer, will be at least a defensive presence and a solid low-end double/double guy (12/10, 14/11)

My guess is they take one if not both picks and try to package it for a proven perimeter shooter. Otherwise, half the team will have 3 years experience or less by 2012-13
 
MilesDeep said:
I can't believe for one second that someone actually believes New Jersey got the good end of this deal. Deron was leaving, Deron was unhappy, Deron was playing injured, Deron was playing badly, Deron was eating up 16 Mil, Deron isn't easy to coach, Deron's negativity was an infection in the locker room. Yes, Favors is a project, but one with a low risk-high reward gamble. I do this trade without the two picks, with them and 3mil in cash, I celebrate. Point guards do not win championships...EVER. WHen was the last time a team whose point guard was their best player won a championship? (Magic was and Isiah was arguably, but those teams basically had an ALLStar starting lineup and at least one really good player off the bench) Devin Harris is an excellent point guard, and Earl Watson is better than serviceable. Utah will be fine.
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Well said. Whatever happens with Favors and the picks, Utah did no worse than a draw (assuming Deron was going to leave in 2012 anyway). I trust Miller and KOC, who both had numerous meetings with Deron and his reps, when they said they just didn't get the impression Deron would stay. And that has been echoed by others. Sure it's just an impression, and maybe there's a franchise tag. But when a guy is unhappy, a franchise tag doesn't matter; he'll whine or play badly until he gets traded.

Harris isn't garbage. He was an excellent young PG in Dallas and had a great first year in NJ, when he had some talent around him. Jersey has been dreadful the last 2 seasons. This year he had Lopez...and then it's huge drop off in talent down to Morrow and Krissy Humphries.

Jersey ONLY comes out ahead if Deron re-signs and they get another superstar. Williams was pretty unhappy when the JAzz started losing. Do you think he's going to be patient while Jersey builds? Gadzuric and Wright aren't exactly game changers. So it will be Williams to Lopez and not much else this season.

Utah also wins if this trade keeps us out of the playoffs this season and Favors and Hayward get a lot of PT. Then we'll have a pretty good second unit in place (anchored by Watson, Hayward and Favors or Millsap) and hopefully get at least one starter in the draft (NJ's pick), sign a veteran with the money we save from AK's expiring and perhaps trade our lower lottery pick for another veteran starter.
 
We just lost our franchise player for a chance to roll the dice. If that's winning you all should spend more time in vegas. Sadly it was our best move. The nets won for now. We win later if the dice hit. If dwill bolts they lose too.

To me, all our options were a lose.
 
vegas said:
We just lost our franchise player for a chance to roll the dice. If that's winning you all should spend more time in vegas. Sadly it was our best move. The nets won for now. We win later if the dice hit. If dwill bolts they lose too.

To me, all our options were a lose.
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Best tie-in-the-username post of the year.
 
candrew said:
Jazz win big.

Harris will be good - albeit not as good as D-Will on offense.

Quite frankly, I think he'll be better on defense.

Favors, if not a dominant scorer, will be at least a defensive presence and a solid low-end double/double guy (12/10, 14/11)

My guess is they take one if not both picks and try to package it for a proven perimeter shooter. Otherwise, half the team will have 3 years experience or less by 2012-13
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Like OKC. I like the sound of that.
 
The real judge in this will be comparing what we got for D-Will this deadline for what New Jersey gets for him at next year's deadline.
 
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