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The Paths Forward From Here

Which path should we take?

  • Compete now - Trade for a "star" (Dejounte Murray, Zach LaVine, Quickley, or a similar type player)

    Votes: 16 21.1%
  • Chill mode - Just ride the fence until next offseason

    Votes: 2 2.6%
  • Consolidate and roll with the young players more - trade some of KO, THT, Clarkson, Collins, Sexton

    Votes: 50 65.8%
  • Tank City - Pursue a Lauri trade that nets us a haul and start a true 3-4 year tank

    Votes: 8 10.5%

  • Total voters
    76
I really don't understand why anybody would want to trade Lauri.

The dude is only 26, wants to stay in Utah long-term, and the Jazz would have to be lucky to draft somebody that ultimately after several years ends up as good as Lauri.

I want to trade for help for him. If we don’t want to do that the next best option is trading him.
 
Isn’t 2 and 3 on this list essentially the same thing? Trading some vets and getting young players more burn is still riding the fence because we’re not competing and we’re not going to be bad enough for a top-5 pick.
Indeed.

Clarkson has had some good moments lately but make no mistake... overall he's been a HUGE negative this season. People are talking like getting rid of him plunges us into the depths of the tank. LOL. It might just as well be addition by subtraction. Pretty much the same goes for Collins.
 
Just wait for a superstar to become disgruntled, then offer a ship load of picks for them. It's inevitable, with how many are total drama queens.
 
Murray surely is. His 2022 season with the Spurs was in many ways comparable to Lauri’s 2023 season with us. Is Lauri a star?

No he wasn't lol. 53% TS% is the same as 64%? And he hasn't even been that good since.
 
No he wasn't lol. 53% TS% is the same as 64%? And he hasn't even been that good since.
1.7 DBPM was also a whole lot better than Lauri's -1 DBPM. 2022 Murray was the very definition of two way star.

And yes if you put him in a secondary role next to a ball hog who can't guard anyone, he will not be as good. Surprise surprise. But this won't the case if he's here in Utah.
 
Both aren’t really clear direction though.
I understand.. 1 and 4 are the big pivots. 2 and 3 are degrees of staying patient and being opportunistic. They don't necessarily commit you in one hard direction. I think you could do either 2 or 3 now and ask yourself in the offseason if you should do options 1 or 4. They are both kind of kick the can down the road but I wanted to give more options than just do nothing, tank, or trade for a star.
 
I understand.. 1 and 4 are the big pivots. 2 and 3 are degrees of staying patient and being opportunistic. They don't necessarily commit you in one hard direction. I think you could do either 2 or 3 now and ask yourself in the offseason if you should do options 1 or 4. They are both kind of kick the can down the road but I wanted to give more options than just do nothing, tank, or trade for a star.

I feel like the time to trade Lauri would be this year though so I don’t think we should wait if that’s the direction we want to go.
 
Murray might be at the intersection of value and fit that works well for us. One of the knocks on him are he wants to operate in the midrange like a star so he's not a perfect compliment to a star.... but we kinda need that type of player. I'd still be a bit frugal with what I'd offer.
 
Murray might be at the intersection of value and fit that works well for us. One of the knocks on him are he wants to operate in the midrange like a star so he's not a perfect compliment to a star.... but we kinda need that type of player. I'd still be a bit frugal with what I'd offer.

Was Collins the down payment?
 
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