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The "real" reason Ray Rice only got 2 game suspension!

I can see two sides to this story. On one hand, the penalty should have been greater and what rice did was unnecessary.

Otoh, I hate hearing everyone saying that it's never ok to hit a woman and making women out there think it's ok to hit or kick a man whenever they want because men will never defend themselves.

I was at a party and a girl punched this dude in the face cause they were talking trash to each other and she could dish out the trash talk but couldn't take it so she punched him in the face and he just took it and then she hit him again when she realized he wouldn't hit back. I bear hugged her and pulled her away and when I let her go she took a couple swings at me. (Didn't land any)

The dudes lip was busted and bloody and the girl was walking around talking **** about how she whooped his *** and acting all arrogant.

There was no consequence for her actions whatsoever.
I think a lot of women have the attitude that if a man ever pisses them off then it's ok to physically attack them with no worry that any harm will come to them

If I feel that I can stop someone with a bitch slap(man or woman) that's what they're getting. If they are bigger and more aggressive than you are then you gotta give em all ya got.

Your response should always be proportionate to the threat.

Bitch slapping a dude after he throws a punch at you is super satisfying. Much more so than actually hurting someone.
 
Why didn't you or this guy call the cops?

1. Calling the cops = dealing with cops, lawyers, court.

2. Even calling the cops is often looked at as "unmanly" or acting like a lil bitch
 
If I feel that I can stop someone with a bitch slap(man or woman) that's what they're getting. If they are bigger and more aggressive than you are then you gotta give em all ya got.

Your response should always be proportionate to the threat.

Bitch slapping a dude after he throws a punch at you is super satisfying. Much more so than actually hurting someone.

So one of us men should have bitch slapped her?
 
IMO, his career is over.

Not because the NFL will give him a lifetime ban or that there aren't any classless organizations out there...

But because he's got a lot of wear and tear. Already last year he was looking like a RB on decline. I just don't see much interest in an aging RB with a ton of baggage.
 
Anyone else notice how the media is tripping over themselves in an effort to condemn society? The world is gonna explode!

How do we know that domestic abuse is actually increasing? How do we know that cases like Rice's actually aren't becoming rarer as compared to 50 or 100 years ago?

In 1914, women couldn't even vote let alone report these cases and receive justice. 200 years ago women were essentially traded as property. For most of western civilization women haven't had very many rights. So how do we know that society is becoming sicker and sicker?

I actually feel like these cases might be on the decline. Awareness is increasing and women can now actually report these cases. There are still many places where women will meet resistance in reporting rape or violence (Winston the Florida St QB) or in red states where it's the way a woman dresses determines whether it's her fault she's raped or not; but I'm guessing it's probably getting better in this more modern and enlightened age.
 
IMO, his career is over.

Not because the NFL will give him a lifetime ban or that there aren't any classless organizations out there...

But because he's got a lot of wear and tear. Already last year he was looking like a RB on decline. I just don't see much interest in an aging RB with a ton of baggage.

Yeah, this is around teh point in which most RB's fall off.
 
Rice has no one to blame but himself.
All his sources of income have been taken away.
His only option may be the CFL?
Would they take him?
 
Rice has no one to blame but himself.
All his sources of income have been taken away.
His only option may be the CFL?
Would they take him?

I think this is his only choice. And even then, I doubt we see a team take a chance on him for at least one year.
 
It's general consensus that it's ok for a woman to beat up a man? Really? If thats general consensus y'all are involved with some ****ed up woman and you have zero self esteem.

Quit being so ****ing obtuse.

Moral, immoral, amoral, whatever... you are being ignorant or naïve saying the social perception doesn't exist. There is no physical recourse for a man being assaulted by a woman. There are social perceptions placed upon a man who is assaulted by a woman that aren't placed upon assaulted women. Right or wrong, a man who is assaulted at all, let alone one who presses charges, is often viewed as weak, or even impotent (qualities NO man aspires to).

Socially (the general consensus I was referring to), men are rightly crucified for assaulting a woman. Conversely, they suffer SOCIALLY for being assaulted by a woman. Woman are just viewed as bitches if they assault a man. People assume that biological disadvantages mean woman can't really do harm to a man.

We're talking social perception. I didn't endorse or condemn a single idea in this. But if you're still blind to it, re-read this thread and hopefully you will be enlightened to the prevalence of these general views.
 
Of course CJ is a ****ing men's right's activist.

See you at the next convention, bro.
 
Quit being so ****ing obtuse.

Moral, immoral, amoral, whatever... you are being ignorant or naïve saying the social perception doesn't exist. There is no physical recourse for a man being assaulted by a woman. There are social perceptions placed upon a man who is assaulted by a woman that aren't placed upon assaulted women. Right or wrong, a man who is assaulted at all, let alone one who presses charges, is often viewed as weak, or even impotent (qualities NO man aspires to).

Socially (the general consensus I was referring to), men are rightly crucified for assaulting a woman. Conversely, they suffer SOCIALLY for being assaulted by a woman. Woman are just viewed as bitches if they assault a man. People assume that biological disadvantages mean woman can't really do harm to a man.

We're talking social perception. I didn't endorse or condemn a single idea in this. But if you're still blind to it, re-read this thread and hopefully you will be enlightened to the prevalence of these general views.

I'm not being obtuse, I guess I don't respond to "societal pressures" the same way you do. Societal pressures are relative. If you're worried about looking like a ***** that's your hang up. I would be more worried about associating with ****ing trash. If some ******* assaulted me I would call the cops on her in a second. I could give 2 **** what you or any other person thinks about me.


These "general views" you're talking about are opinions held on a sports forum. Hardly general consensus. Why are you holding me to the multiple, disorganized, and constantly changing opinions flying around this one thread? These conversations don't take place in a vacuum.
 
1. Calling the cops = dealing with cops, lawyers, court.

2. Even calling the cops is often looked at as "unmanly" or acting like a lil bitch

Actually, if you get in a fight with someone and there are witnesses it's probably a good idea to call the cops.

I'm pretty sure that kept me out of getting charged once. In fact I'm sure it did because the investigating officer all but told me so.
 
Actually, if you get in a fight with someone and there are witnesses it's probably a good idea to call the cops.

I'm pretty sure that kept me out of getting charged once. In fact I'm sure it did because the investigating officer all but told me so.
Wait, did you fight a girl and then call the cops? (Since that is what we are discussing after all)
 
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