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The tank will last another year - Randy Rigby

If Parker and Embiid go back to school, then I'd be down to tank again. Right now the 2015 draft doesn't look very deep (from what I hear).

But I have a hard time seeing another tank happening. I think Rigby is just preparing people for the idea that we won't make the playoffs next year. Not in the West. I see us being toward the end of the lottery next year, and making the playoffs the year after that.
 
spycam1 said:
If Parker and Embiid go back to school, then I'd be down to tank again. Right now the 2015 draft doesn't look very deep (from what I hear).

But I have a hard time seeing another tank happening. I think Rigby is just preparing people for the idea that we won't make the playoffs next year. Not in the West. I see us being toward the end of the lottery next year, and making the playoffs the year after that.
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This post is filled with common sense.
 
spycam1 said:
If Parker and Embiid go back to school, then I'd be down to tank again. Right now the 2015 draft doesn't look very deep (from what I hear).

But I have a hard time seeing another tank happening. I think Rigby is just preparing people for the idea that we won't make the playoffs next year. Not in the West. I see us being toward the end of the lottery next year, and making the playoffs the year after that.
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But how, exactly, do the Jazz "tank" and wind up with a bottom 2-3 record? Jettison Hayward, hope their top-5 pick this season is a bust, trade Favors and Kanter for 2nd round picks?
 
Core4 said:
I doubt the Jazz keep Garrett AND Lucas. Neto wanted to come over this season and they made him play overseas another year. Expect Raul to be on the roster. Lucas must have pics of someone; otherwise he would have never gotten a roster spot. So maybe he stays over Garrett - although I'd rather have Diante or a rookie over JLIII. For some crazy reason though, the Jazz have this philopsophy that they MUST have a veteran 2nd/3rd PG, no matter how bad he may be.

And how would letting Jefferson and Williams go equate to a tank? After a bad November, RJ has put up some decent percentages. But 10/3 in 27 mins/per shouldn't be hard to replace. Besides, he's already stated his intention of playing for a contender. He's an UFA. So he's gone.

And Williams? Nothing special. OK shooter, but not going to dominate a game. For what he does, Jazz can probably find a comparable player with the GS pick. Someone younger, with upside, who is MUCH cheaper. Or if they draft a big, then Marvin will be out of a job. He wasn't that good for Utah last season when playing SF.
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Jazz have Favors, kanter, Evans, Gobert, Burks and Burke under contract.

I say they bring back Hayward, Williams and Garret.

Then they beef up thru free agency and bring in two 1st round picks and Neto.

Favors/Gobert
Kanter/FA or draft pick/Evans
FA or draft pick/Williams
Hayward/Burks
Burke/Neto/Garrett

Then there will be one final FA/draft pick wing. That is 13 players.
 
Core4 said:
But how, exactly, do the Jazz "tank" and wind up with a bottom 2-3 record? Jettison Hayward, hope their top-5 pick this season is a bust, trade Favors and Kanter for 2nd round picks?
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He goes on to say that he doesn't see it happening. Also another tank year would possibly mean another year or two of Corbin. I'd rather move forward with what the Jazz have done this year and have a new coach.

I think most of us agree that the Jazz will be much improved but short of the playoffs. They will be close to .500 next year.

I say maybe even up to 45 wins.
 
We're agreeing a lot, Stoked.
Certainly on talent and PT this season, Garrett stays over JLIII.
And I do think the Jazz pick up two FA's. One could be Williams; the other is likely a starting wing (unless Utah wins the lottery).
As for the picks, I think Lindsey will trade the #23 and #34 (or wherever those land) to move up and grab the player he wants in the late teens. If a trade doesn't happen, the 2nd-rounder will be another draft and stash.


In terms of the "tank," what I've been trying to say is even IF the Jazz wanted to intentionally miss the playoffs and hope for Parker, Embiid or Okafor, there's just no way to finish that low in the standings, not without doing a Philadelphia and trading away core players for future picks.
 
Core4 said:
We're agreeing a lot, Stoked.
Certainly on talent and PT this season, Garrett stays over JLIII.
And I do think the Jazz pick up two FA's. One could be Williams; the other is likely a starting wing (unless Utah wins the lottery).
As for the picks, I think Lindsey will trade the #23 and #34 (or wherever those land) to move up and grab the player he wants in the late teens. If a trade doesn't happen, the 2nd-rounder will be another draft and stash.
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I would be thrilled with that.

And our most core peices are still young. Hayward will be what? 24 or 25 next year? Favors, Burke, Burks and Kanter even younger. Plus two draft picks...
 
spycam1 said:
If Parker and Embiid go back to school, then I'd be down to tank again. Right now the 2015 draft doesn't look very deep (from what I hear).

But I have a hard time seeing another tank happening. I think Rigby is just preparing people for the idea that we won't make the playoffs next year. Not in the West. I see us being toward the end of the lottery next year, and making the playoffs the year after that.
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I agree with this.

I think we are putting too much on our future rookie. Remember, the year Cleveland drafted LeBron, he averaged 20 a night and they only won 35 games.

To think that a pick and a new coach will take us from 23 wins to 40 is a little crazy. We probably end up in the 25-35 range, depending on how the draft pick develops and the coach we bring in.
 
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