♪alt13
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Serious? You think that a cop with a degree in "business" or "sociology" has a better understanding of the law?
Then just some dude that spent a few weeks in the police acadamy, yes.
I think back to my undergraduate days, and they weren't spend perusing the laws of the land.
So, what do they really get?
I'm serious here. Other than the debt, what has that younger cop gotten? Both cops went through the Police Academy. Both cops learned what they need to learn in the Police Academy.
As far as cops I don't really care what they have gotten out of it. I care that I am less likely to deal with some dumb hick cop.
Another example: most doctors in the world are bachelors degrees. Why do we require ours to obtain doctorates? What does the Dr learn in his undergraduate studies that makes it essential to becoming a Dr? Other than the debt, what did we do for the Dr?
Same with school teachers. It used to be, to be a school teacher, all you needed was a teaching certificate. Now, most places want a bachelors degree. My sister did her bachelors in education. She didn't learn calculus. She didn't take extra history or english or literature or writing classes. So, what was the point? Other than the debt she came out of school with, what did she really come away with that teacher's in the past were so desperately missing?
Maybe you should ask your sister about class sizes in schools and how hard it is to teach nearly 40 kids to read.
I know 3 people that either just finished a bachelors in education or are almost there. All 3 seem happy with their schooling.
Take a look at the list of degrees offered by most colleges and universities. What good are they? Most are completely useless. So, what is this huge advantage we are getting over being more educated?
Education holds more value than simply the vocation it may provide. For one thing it gives me interesting people to talk to. People that chose to learn about something because they fell in love with it and are passionate about it help make this country the vibrant place that it is. As far as the debt is concerned if you choose to live off loans while you are in school you're going to go deep into debt. In state tuition at the U is what $7,000 a year. So that's 28,000 over four years. Half the price of a brand new truck. You can pay for that education on a low interest loan. Wahhhh
One Brow's mobility link is interesting and I'll have to look more into this.
Now, I'm still forming my opinion on all of this. But I need more than "without schooling we would all be ignorant fools." Have you seen American lately? Even though we can read (somewhat. How often are there common grammar mistakes on message boards? And how often is that viewed as ok? So, again, what is the point of all this education?), we aren't less ignorant by any stretch of the means.
But, hey, at least we can read about what Kim Kardashian is up to, right?
All I can say is compare well educated states to poorly educated ones. Pick a few measures you like.
Compare EU nations for that matter. The patterns will reveal themselves to you.