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Beer said:
Obama literally MURDERED hundreds. Between 300 and 800 innocent civilians were MURDERED in his 8 years. It might even be more than that to be honest. Obama built the cages. This is not a defense of Trump. He is a garbage human. But it pisses me off when people act like Obama is not a piece of **** too. Just because he can talk well, smile, is a minority, is a Dem, but he also has an ungodly amount of skeletons and MURDER in his closet. I was not a fan of his race relations, but I gave him a pass because he was a black male, so maybe he just looked at things differently. But to act like Obama was not shady and evil in his own right is disingenuous.

So glad to be done with Trump. Biden may not be evil but he is crazy. In all honesty I think Kamala is a morally corrupt evil human being also.So not a fan at all of what is going on. But yes, hopefully someone that isn't totally hateable being in charge even things out a bit. Now if Kamala becomes Pres I'm honestly scared to see where the country will go.
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Use some context when you say obama literally murdered hundreds of innocent lives. What kind of gun did he use? What did he say to them before he killed them? Things like that.
 
fishonjazz said:
Use some context when you say obama literally murdered hundreds of innocent lives. What kind of gun did he use? What did he say to them before he killed them? Things like that.
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Sure, I mean if you want to get into semantics like that. Which Klan division did Trump join? Which white supremacist rally did he speak at and lead? I'm confident in saying Obama is more closely tied to drone strike murders, which by some accounts have a 90% civilian to target death rate, then Trump is tied to white supremacy. Now I do firmly believe Trump gave the white supremacists the courage to come out of the shadows they had been hiding in since the OKC bombing, but I also believe, or know, Obama is a war criminal but is shielded by the fact he was the president of the USA. Who is far above the law for some reason.

Now once again, I am so glad Trump will be ****ing gone in 2 months or so. I cannot wait. He is a vile human, he was a terrible president, the amount of people fooled by him is legitimately insane. BUT, the amount of people that actually believe Obama was a great dude and great president is also ridiculous. I get Obama has been out of office for 4 years. But it's so frustrating to me the amount of people willing to look past the obvious flaws of the Dem party just because they ain't Trump.

IDK, I just have no faith in anyone doing the right thing at this point. I think it's fairly obvious Hunter and Joe are in cahoots in taking money from foreign entities for a seat at the table, which is ya know, not great. It's 100% truth Kamala has been an enemy to the minorities and the poor for her entire career, but now she's making a turn to pretend she is a progressive and is bushwhacking her way to equal rights when she has spent her entire career doing the exact opposite.

Just be willing to actually look past the party lines and know what each candidate actually stands for, which as of right now is next to nothing outside of progressing their own careers.

I'm starting to sound like Babe so I'll get off my soap box now.
 
Just a reminder that only 12 years ago, the Republicans nominated this man.



I remember watching it live and it struck me as uncommonly gracious and stateman-like. I watch it now and it feels like it's from another universe. Please, take the 4 minutes to watch it. From not allowing the crowd to boo Obama, to spending time to talk about how important the election of Obama is to the black community, to earnestly saying he wishes Obama's grandmother had lived to see him elected, to talking about how America is a better place for having elected Obama(!!!), to urging the crowd to work with him to help Obama make the country better, to the crowd cheering at the end instead of chanting "lock him up."

This man was a moral and ethical rock the size of freaking Uluru. Trump is a piece of ****, and you're probably one for voting for him. Especially the second time around, after everything he said about the man in the video above, who I will remind you, belong to the same party as Trump.
 
JimLes said:
Every one of his campaign rallies. Let's not be obtuse and pretend otherwise.
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Sure, just like Obama was approving drone strikes killing hundreds and hundred and hundreds of innocent civilians. I mean I guess he didn't take the controller and fly the drone himself so it's all good.
 
Beer said:
Sure, I mean if you want to get into semantics like that. Which Klan division did Trump join? Which white supremacist rally did he speak at and lead? I'm confident in saying Obama is more closely tied to drone strike murders, which by some accounts have a 90% civilian to target death rate, then Trump is tied to white supremacy. Now I do firmly believe Trump gave the white supremacists the courage to come out of the shadows they had been hiding in since the OKC bombing, but I also believe, or know, Obama is a war criminal but is shielded by the fact he was the president of the USA. Who is far above the law for some reason.

Now once again, I am so glad Trump will be ****ing gone in 2 months or so. I cannot wait. He is a vile human, he was a terrible president, the amount of people fooled by him is legitimately insane. BUT, the amount of people that actually believe Obama was a great dude and great president is also ridiculous. I get Obama has been out of office for 4 years. But it's so frustrating to me the amount of people willing to look past the obvious flaws of the Dem party just because they ain't Trump.

IDK, I just have no faith in anyone doing the right thing at this point. I think it's fairly obvious Hunter and Joe are in cahoots in taking money from foreign entities for a seat at the table, which is ya know, not great. It's 100% truth Kamala has been an enemy to the minorities and the poor for her entire career, but now she's making a turn to pretend she is a progressive and is bushwhacking her way to equal rights when she has spent her entire career doing the exact opposite.

Just be willing to actually look past the party lines and know what each candidate actually stands for, which as of right now is next to nothing outside of progressing their own careers.

I'm starting to sound like Babe so I'll get off my soap box now.
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I mean really. How do you believe these obama murders played out?
Do you think obama went out into the field and gathered his own intentionally inaccurate intelligence and then told military personel to fire a rocket at a target and they were like "but obama we have been monitoring that target and there are only civilians in there. No terrorist presence at all" And obama was like "I dont care, I WANT the blood of the innocent!" and the military personel said ok and then launched the rocket?

Or do you think his military intelligence team gathered info and presented it to obama that said there was a terrorist at a target and asked if they should strike it and obama said yes and then they found later that the info was bad and there was no terrorist and they killed innocent people instead and obama like "Oh well, **** em"

Or do you think millitary intelligence gathered intel that they believed to show were a terrorist was and asked if obama if they should strike the target and obama said yes and then they found out that the intel was bad and that they killed innocent people rather than terrorists and obama was like "****, thats horrible. I wish i could go back in time and never give the ok for that strike"

Like how do you think it played out?
We were in a conflict at the time right? Do you think any conflict ever existed where innocent people were not killed? When the US dropped a bomb called hiroshima on japan do you think any innocent people died? How about desert storm? Vietnam? WW2?
 
Beer said:
Sure, I mean if you want to get into semantics like that. Which Klan division did Trump join? Which white supremacist rally did he speak at and lead? I'm confident in saying Obama is more closely tied to drone strike murders, which by some accounts have a 90% civilian to target death rate, then Trump is tied to white supremacy. Now I do firmly believe Trump gave the white supremacists the courage to come out of the shadows they had been hiding in since the OKC bombing, but I also believe, or know, Obama is a war criminal but is shielded by the fact he was the president of the USA. Who is far above the law for some reason.

Now once again, I am so glad Trump will be ****ing gone in 2 months or so. I cannot wait. He is a vile human, he was a terrible president, the amount of people fooled by him is legitimately insane. BUT, the amount of people that actually believe Obama was a great dude and great president is also ridiculous. I get Obama has been out of office for 4 years. But it's so frustrating to me the amount of people willing to look past the obvious flaws of the Dem party just because they ain't Trump.

IDK, I just have no faith in anyone doing the right thing at this point. I think it's fairly obvious Hunter and Joe are in cahoots in taking money from foreign entities for a seat at the table, which is ya know, not great. It's 100% truth Kamala has been an enemy to the minorities and the poor for her entire career, but now she's making a turn to pretend she is a progressive and is bushwhacking her way to equal rights when she has spent her entire career doing the exact opposite.

Just be willing to actually look past the party lines and know what each candidate actually stands for, which as of right now is next to nothing outside of progressing their own careers.

I'm starting to sound like Babe so I'll get off my soap box now.
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I agree with the general sentiment of what you are saying which is basically that politicians are crappy people and corrupt and suck. Trump is just the worst of the worst is all. AND ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE
 
JimLes said:
Just a reminder that only 12 years ago, the Republicans nominated this man.



I remember watching it live and it struck me as uncommonly gracious and stateman-like. I watch it now and it feels like it's from another universe. Please, take the 4 minutes to watch it. From not allowing the crowd to boo Obama, to spending time to talk about how important the election of Obama is to the black community, to earnestly saying he wishes Obama's grandmother had lived to see him elected, to talking about how America is a better place for having elected Obama(!!!), to urging the crowd to work with him to help Obama make the country better, to the crowd cheering at the end instead of chanting "lock him up."

This man was a moral and ethical rock the size of freaking Uluru. Trump is a piece of ****, and you're probably one for voting for him. Especially the second time around, after everything he said about the man in the video above, who I will remind you, belong to the same party as Trump.
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Good stuff. Honorable. Classy. Respectful. Unifying.
 
fishonjazz said:
I agree with the general sentiment of what you are saying which is basically that politicians are crappy people and corrupt and suck. Trump is just the worst of the worst is all.
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That's fair. My point is we can do better, but we must demand better. No more letting the lesser of 2 evil bull **** slide. It will never end until the populace wakes up and stops it themselves.
 
Beer said:
That's fair. My point is we can do better, but we must demand better. No more letting the lesser of 2 evil bull **** slide. It will never end until the populace wakes up and stops it themselves.
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Its sad to say this but I dont know if we will ever get a good person as president again. Having one that makes us citizens better (rather than worse) and inspires us to kindness and compassion and unity (rather than hatred and anger and division) might be the best we can hope for.
 
fishonjazz said:
Use some context when you say obama literally murdered hundreds of innocent lives. What kind of gun did he use? What did he say to them before he killed them? Things like that.
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He used drones. Obama continued, and likely expanded, Bush's program of shooting up with drones in foreign countries, and while some effort was made to avid bystanders some of the time, more than a few times these events happened at weddings and similar celebrations.
 
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