The Jazz need to have a workout where they bring in Kanter, Valanciunas, Biyombo and Montiejunas so they can sort all this out. Then throw in that big guy from USC.
This is the MAN we need at #3 - C Jonas Valanciunas
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BENTLEY
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Speaking of skinny frame, I checked Biedrins profile and they're almost identical. Both listed at 240 lbs. Biedrins listed at 7' whereas JV listed at 6' 11".
Talk on this realgm forum is that he's much better than Biedrins offensively. Biedins got good numbers in Latvian league whereas JV got good numbers in Euroleague.
Oh, and Biedrins wingspan, according to espn, is listed at 7' 1.5"
I'm eager to hear what JV's wingspan actually is. I mean I want to see an actual measurement.
Talk on this realgm forum is that he's much better than Biedrins offensively. Biedins got good numbers in Latvian league whereas JV got good numbers in Euroleague.
Oh, and Biedrins wingspan, according to espn, is listed at 7' 1.5"
I'm eager to hear what JV's wingspan actually is. I mean I want to see an actual measurement.
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In the highlights it looks like he has hugely long arms. And he has a good frame. He could easily put on 15 lbs of muscle and be an absolute beast physically. He appears to be fairly fluid athletically (not elite, but looked good running the floor). I liked what I saw of his presence of mind. He seems to have good court awareness and runs the pick n roll very well.
I am still frustrated that these guys all look like dudes that would be picked after #10 in a stronger draft. Whoever we take, I am not holding my breath until they become a solid contributor.
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Biedrins was drafted 11th overall. But JV projects to be significantly better than him and this is a weak year so it is what it is. I still don't know who to take with either pick, though #3 is most pressing.
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i don't believe kanter will be the same defensive liability as boozer... noah might be a solid defender, but he still is very inconsistent and can get pushet around, even if i love his high energy, motor. if you want defensive, i'm intrigued by his teammate, omer asik (a rookie), he will be a defensive stallwart and an elite defensive big man. he is rebounding like a machine, blocking shots, alterig shots, sets nice screens, also great team defender, but he is a bad free throw shooter and not much of an offensive player... if he can improve this aspect of his game and add some offensive moves, he can become a player like noah. this guy is 7 feet tall, 255 lbs, 7-5 wingspan or 7-4, i don't know, but he looks like a beast on the defensive end. he likely could become a 10-10-2 player in this league. you like him?
omer asik > valanciunas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLprBCKW2fo
I would understand if people like derrick more than kanter since they know him better, but Valanciunas over Kanter? You gotta be kidding. Kanter played against Valanciunas a couple of times in European youth champs and he throw himself off like a garbage, he dominated him so badly. I believe Valanciunas will be a good player but he is more close to being a defensive player than an offensive power like Kanter. We already have favors and if he will be our future star together with Hayward, its nonsense to pick valanciunas. I would take Kanter or even Knight over him. I think he may be a good fit in Toronto
and european stats shouldn confuse people, becuz they may sometimes seem too low while it isnt , (since game is totally 40 mins) or sometimes people may say wow while its actually artificially numbers. For example Rubio doesnt have very impessive stats but he is really a good player. On the other hand there are players who had good numbers but couldnt play in nba well, like Jasikevicius, Spanoulis (he is really good in europe but i doubt people even remember him, he played in Houston 2yrs ago) or Darko.
I think Valanciunas will be a good player but not a star player. He can be a good defender with decent offense. He needs to find the right fit to play together, who can open up the space for him so he can get extra points. If he teams up with an offensively flawed guy like Pryzbilla, he will be very limited, but if he plays along with a good scorer, he can take advantage of it.
I think Valanciunas will be a good player but not a star player. He can be a good defender with decent offense. He needs to find the right fit to play together, who can open up the space for him so he can get extra points. If he teams up with an offensively flawed guy like Pryzbilla, he will be very limited, but if he plays along with a good scorer, he can take advantage of it.
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sepanol, the thing that has finally intrigued me with Valanciunas is his motor and his willingness to get better. I read about his continuing to shoot 200 free throws -- everyday? I think -- and he's already almost 90% there. And his really long arms intrigue me too. The Jazz have offensive players but they lack a long defender. So I'm wondering if maybe Valanciunas is a combination of Kanter and Biyombo. His wingspan is supposedly 7' 6" -- Kanter's is only 7' 1.5" I think.
Word is that kanter is better now but that Valanciunas is progressing rapidly. Anyway, I'm not sure but more length at Center will help Jazz defensively. Offensively, Valanciunas has great numbers, though he doesn't have the range Kanter does.
Does Kanter's preference to play PF make him too much like Favors? I know that either of them can play Center, but their natural position for both of them is at PF.
Word is that kanter is better now but that Valanciunas is progressing rapidly. Anyway, I'm not sure but more length at Center will help Jazz defensively. Offensively, Valanciunas has great numbers, though he doesn't have the range Kanter does.
Does Kanter's preference to play PF make him too much like Favors? I know that either of them can play Center, but their natural position for both of them is at PF.