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This pisses me off real bad

Wes Mantooth said:
Is there much room for growth between SLC and Park City? I seem to recall mountains on either side of me on that major road I was on...think it was three lanes on either side.
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There is none. Salt Lake County owns of the land all the way up to the summit. It is a watershed area. Salt Lake gets its drinking water from watersheds, as no rivers run through this area. You can't even hike with your gig there.

What's amazes me about it is that immediately outside of the million or so people that live in the Salt Lake Valley, there is a vast, untouched and beautiful land. Awesome to drive through it.

Just over the summit is a different watershed and the building starts right away as you go towards Park City.
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Is there much room for growth between SLC and Park City? I seem to recall mountains on either side of me on that major road I was on...think it was three lanes on either side.
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Not really cause of the mountains like you said but little by little the mountains are being developed too which pisses me off the most.

I doubt I will even go camping a few years from now due to the crowds

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It amuses me when people complain about the growth here. We have larger than average family sizes. Where did everyone think those kids were going to live when they grew up? And then they have large families. We don't even need people to move in to have a lot of growth.

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sahlensguy said:
Other than Ogden is tweekerville, I like it.

Better have a fence around your (humble) property and don't show off your wealth to passerbys.

Nice laid back small townish center.
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The outskirts are where it's at. South Ogden, Washington terrace, and certain areas are fine. Just directly downtown is shady, and even that isn't that bad. The first house we bought was at the mouth of Ogden canyon and it was a really nice area, and still is. I have other relatives that live close to Harrison boulevard generally in central Ogden, like between 36th Street and 20th Street, and those areas are pretty nice as well. Older homes but with a little bit of charm, and generally the neighborhoods are decent. Having now live extended periods of time out of the state and having spent plenty of time in truly rough areas, by comparison Ogden really isn't too bad.
 
LogGrad98 said:
The outskirts are where it's at. South Ogden, Washington terrace, and certain areas are fine. Just directly downtown is shady, and even that isn't that bad. The first house we bought was at the mouth of Ogden canyon and it was a really nice area, and still is. I have other relatives that live close to Harrison boulevard generally in central Ogden, like between 36th Street and 20th Street, and those areas are pretty nice as well. Older homes but with a little bit of charm, and generally the neighborhoods are decent. Having now live extended periods of time out of the state and having spent plenty of time in truly rough areas, by comparison Ogden really isn't too bad.
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Compton?
 
Wes Mantooth said:
Is there much room for growth between SLC and Park City? I seem to recall mountains on either side of me on that major road I was on...think it was three lanes on either side.
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Other than in some of the valley's headed towards Park City, there really isn't much livable space there, due to the mountains. My son-in-law's family live near Park City, his extended family owned several ranches there, they grow cattle, so obviously they could turn the ranch space into homes, but there really isn't a huge demand to build where they live. They live in Midway, and there are a couple of other small areas like that on the way to Park City, but from what they tell me they don't get a lot of draw for new homes being built.
 
JazzGal said:
It amuses me when people complain about the growth here. We have larger than average family sizes. Where did everyone think those kids were going to live when they grew up? And then they have large families. We don't even need people to move in to have a lot of growth.

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All of that it's true. Not sure why that should make it so I'm not able to complain about it. It a good explanation for why it could be happening. Still sucks though.
(Fwiw I'm in my 40's and only have 1 kid so I'm doing my part )

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LogGrad98 said:
Other than in some of the valley's headed towards Park City, there really isn't much livable space there, due to the mountains. My son-in-law's family live near Park City, his extended family owned several ranches there, they grow cattle, so obviously they could turn the ranch space into homes, but there really isn't a huge demand to build where they live. They live in Midway, and there are a couple of other small areas like that on the way to Park City, but from what they tell me they don't get a lot of draw for new homes being built.
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I love midway. It's near the top of my list of where I would like to live. (Star valley might be my #1)

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I love that SLC is growing. I especially love the growth from outside. I enjoy the things that a larger city brings. I don't like traffic, but it's a small price to pay, imho, to have a larger, more diverse, more interesting and more enjoyable city.
 
Gameface said:
I love that SLC is growing. I especially love the growth from outside. I enjoy the things that a larger city brings. I don't like traffic, but it's a small price to pay, imho, to have a larger, more diverse, more interesting and more enjoyable city.
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Honestly, the only thing that I really hate about it is that the mountains are too crowded. I used to be able to go fish the Provo river any day of the week. Then it got to a point where I could only go on the weekdays. Now I could go on a Wednesday in February with snow everywhere and there would be cars parked everywhere along the river still.
Same goes for the hiking trails and other rivers and lakes. Much harder to get away from people now. (And people leave garbage everywhere in these beautiful places. That REALLY pisses me off. I usually bring a bag and pick up other people's trash when I go into the mountains)

And I don't want the crime and homelessness that typical large cities have.

Everything else I'm fine with.

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fishonjazz said:
Honestly, the only thing that I really hate about it is that the mountains are too crowded. I used to be able to go fish the Provo river any day of the week. Then it got to a point where I could only go on the weekdays. Now I could go on a Wednesday in February with snow everywhere and there would be cars parked everywhere along the river still.
Same goes for the hiking trails and other rivers and lakes. Much harder to get away from people now. (And people leave garbage everywhere in these beautiful places. That REALLY pisses me off. I usually bring a bag and pick up other people's trash when I go into the mountains)

And I don't want the crime and homelessness that typical large cities have.

Everything else I'm fine with.

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People who litter are human garbage, no pun intended. Pedophiles, rapists and litterers. The worst three people there are.
 
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