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This season will vindicate Ty Corbin

franklin said:
Corbin made Carroll relevant. If it wasn't for Corbin molding and developing Carroll he'd be in the d-league or Europe. Loved watching Carroll play here. He was one of those got away players like Wes Matthews.
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I have to disagree. Carroll made not playing him unrealistic. He didn't improve the way he has till he moved on from Corbin. Giving that credit to Corbin is unfair imo.

Credit for Carroll on the Jazz goes to Lindsey and credit for Carroll's improvement goes to the ATL coaching staff.
 
Stoked said:
I have to disagree. Carroll made not playing him unrealistic. He didn't improve the way he has till he moved on from Corbin. Giving that credit to Corbin is unfair imo.

Credit for Carroll on the Jazz goes to Lindsey and credit for Carroll's improvement goes to the ATL coaching staff.
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It was hyperbole. As much as you pretending a young Carroll wasn't great under Corbin.


Corbin gave Carroll the latitude to do what he did best: gamble on offense for steals. Carroll became relevant under Corbin and might not have had that latitude under many other coaches. Corbin read his abilities perfectly and allowed him to take the gambles that many other Utah players weren't allowed to take (Carroll had by far more defensive latitude than Hayward). Corbin also utilized his bad shot to start developing him into a shooter. He was put in some pretty damn good shooting situations by Corbin, but we won't get into that.
 
Stoked, are you honestly saying Carroll didn't improve in Utah? He went from a nobody to a fan favorite. Sometimes I can't tell whether these comments are revisionist or just trolling me for the fun of it.
 
franklin said:
Stoked, are you honestly saying Carroll didn't improve in Utah? He went from a nobody to a fan favorite. Sometimes I can't tell whether these comments are revisionist or just trolling me for the fun of it.
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Carroll was a favorite because of his hustle which he had all along. Yes, he improved some while in Utah but his big improvement came from the ATL coaching staff.

Also stop with the nonsense. I never once said Carroll wasn't good under Corbin. All I did was question your assigning the credit for his continued improvement to Corbin.

Edit; I will admit the trolling comment made me smile though.
 
Quin the development god. He made Hayward an All Star, Favors finally turn the corner & Gobert a freak. He is responsible for all player development but not responsible for Exum being trash, Burke regressing, Kanter not learning a damn thing, and Hood failing to stay healthy.

From reading these comments I'm sure Gobert would have been demoted to d-league this season without Quin and Favors sold off for peanuts.
 
franklin said:
Corbin also utilized his bad shot to start developing him into a shooter. He was put in some pretty damn good shooting situations by Corbin, but we won't get into that.
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Those "pretty damn good shooting situations" couldn't have been all that great...DMC's 3pt % worsened under Corbin, DMC shot 36.8% in year one under Corbin, then dropped to 28.6% in year 2. Once Carroll left Utah and played for a real coach his 3pt shooting percentages increased close to 40%. Where do you come up with this crap?
 
franklin said:
Corbin made Carroll relevant. If it wasn't for Corbin molding and developing Carroll he'd be in the d-league or Europe. Loved watching Carroll play here. He was one of those got away players like Wes Matthews.
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Agreed. Give credit to Carroll, of course, but credit to Ty for placing him in a role where he succeeded. I loved Demarre from the get go.
franklin said:
It was hyperbole. As much as you pretending a young Carroll wasn't great under Corbin.


Corbin gave Carroll the latitude to do what he did best: gamble on offense for steals. Carroll became relevant under Corbin and might not have had that latitude under many other coaches. Corbin read his abilities perfectly and allowed him to take the gambles that many other Utah players weren't allowed to take (Carroll had by far more defensive latitude than Hayward). Corbin also utilized his bad shot to start developing him into a shooter. He was put in some pretty damn good shooting situations by Corbin, but we won't get into that.
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I agree with this post. Corbin did best with Demarre & Burks imo. Probably Diante as well.
 
Regardless of what all of us back seat coaches think the proof of the pudding is in the eating. The rest of the NBA apparently also cannot see Corbins greatness. He isn't even coaching now. That is not far off of those players that have a decent season or 2, make some headlines, then end up playing in China.


And wow does the newest version of Android swype keyboard suck at getting the word right.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Regardless of what all of us back seat coaches think the proof of the pudding is in the eating. The rest of the NBA apparently also cannot see Corbins greatness. He isn't even coaching now. That is not far off of those players that have a decent season or 2, make some headlines, then end up playing in China.


And wow does the newest version of Android swype keyboard suck at getting the word right.
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He was promoted and fired in the same season by the worst ran team in the league. It's not exactly the best time to find a new job.
 
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