this team might just suck.

[cowhide]

5 - 6 at home isn't what I would call embarassing, and I just posted evidence to suggest that the Jazz could start winning more games when they get to play at home more since their net rating is +3, which is around 8th in the league compared to other teams, and they shoot a hell of a lot better when at home.

If you're arguing that the Jazz simply don't have enough talent or firepower to be a true contender in the playoffs then I agree, but I would also add that anyone who expected this team that was entirely run back from last years team to magically improve across the board to become a contender had set themselves up for disappointment.

Yes being 5-6 is embarrassing considering the "home court advantage". If they shoot so much better then why are they 5-6. Playoff teams usually dominate at home. I didn't expect improvement across the board but I didn't expect everyone to take a step back either. The whole reason for bringing back guys was to be ready and not to have to teach everyone the system. While other teams needed time to mesh the Jazz should have been ready from the get go.

I never expected the Jazz to be contenders immediately but I expected them to move towards that instead of looking like a lottery team. The Western conference is vastly improved so that can explain some of the Jazz struggles but the reality is that the NBA game has changed to more of a run and gun type league with scoring up through out the league. So if you have a team built on defense and lacking of scorers then you are going to struggle. Jazz probably didn't see it coming so fast but they are going to have to adjust quickly or they are going to be in a hole they can't recover from. Many Jazz fans are just counting on the Jazz flipping the switch when the schedule gets easier. I am saying you can't count on it.

Memphis, Denver, Dallas, Lakers, Kings, Thunder, Clippers are better.
Houston is worse and GS. Both of these teams were top 2 last year but at the end of the day GS will be there and maybe Houston will move up but they may miss the playoffs or squeak in.

Portland, Utah, New Orleans, San Antonio, Minnesota are flawed teams. All or at least 3 could be missing the playoffs with winning records.

Suns suck and are rebuilding

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

No, but he did note DM, Joe, and Exum's numbers in wins and losses... was weird he included Exum in that trio. I didn't sense an agenda on this one.

Then you dont follow him that closely, because that's his agenda.

 

[Revolution 9]

I just don't see us putting O'Neale on the block because he makes less than $2 million and he's so close with Mitchell.

I agree he's the least likely to go. Unless someone else wants him included on a trade, or we can upgrade. He is definitely should be target for upgrading. As much as we like him, we've got to improve somewhere. Maybe we add another wing, but throw him deeper down the bench.

 

[Revolution 9]

I'm really down because I want Exum, Rubio, Favors, and O'Neale to be the guys. I like them.

It's just a sad reality that maybe they aren't good enough.

 

[Tragic66]

Lmfao

You're a clown

I do have big feet

 

[LoPo]

I'm really down because I want Exum, Rubio, Favors, and O'Neale to be the guys. I like them.

It's just a sad reality that maybe they aren't good enough.

I'm still very, very high on O'Neale. He's really only been playing NBA minutes for less than a season. He has already shown that he can play top level defense. Offensively, he is limited, but he has shown flashes of productivity both off the bounce and shooting the 3.

I just think he is one of those late bloomers who is getting it more and more over time. And at less than $2 million this year and next, we are lucky to have him. The development staff and O'Neale just really need to work their butt off and we could have a very important rotation player for a while.

If you break down the last few games, every minute we have given to Thabo could have gone to O'Neale and we would be better off. For example last night, Thabo was -11 last night shooting 0-4 with zero points. O'Neale was +6 shooting 4-6 and 1-2 from 3. Outside of 2 turnovers, he played excellent basketball for 18 minutes. And like they say, good defense never has a cold streak.