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leftyjace said:
Couple that with the lack (or deterioration) in innovation these days, and... hmmmmmmm.
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Don't see how anyone can think this since we're in an innovative boom at unprecedented clips. You can't keep up with the tech advancements these days (medical most impressive IMO). You're just being an angry old white man grump, leftEye. :)

Thought what aapl did was genius, even though I prefer dividends over buybacks under many scenarios.

I've been buying "search for yield" theme for three plus years (way too early). Now that its paying off I've been selling reits. My favorite put up a damn near 25% offering right after I wanted them to, and fully subscribed it. I'm against stock "tips" but will give one if it falls significantly, six years of my history following it included.

I built 1/3rd my folio in Japan following Abe's election--getting crushed the last couple weeks. Will buy more.
 
Also, the market won't fall off a cliff since soooooo many have been left behind and desperately want a correction. There's no place to hide (in bonds).

If I'm wrong, I'm going full margin at Dow 12000 and won't look back.
 
franklin said:
Don't see how anyone can think this since we're in an innovative boom at unprecedented clips. You can't keep up with the tech advancements these days (medical most impressive IMO). You're just being an angry old white man grump, leftEye. :)
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Sorry... I don't know that I meant so much innovation as entrepreneurship.

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leftyjace said:
Sorry... I don't know that I meant so much innovation as img]
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Oh I definitely agree with that.

I don't look at demographic changes as inherently good or bad. We collectively make individual decisions that can be measured. All I see from your graphs is a bunch of Americans deciding working for the man is the best risk:reward career path. We're in a new world where lots of up front capital is required for worthy profit return. Education is the easiest calculable ROI, since black smithing isn't a viable enterprise any longer.

If entrepreneurship is the measure of success then we can look to the one of the highest per capita countries: Greece.
 
franklin said:
Oh I definitely agree with that.

I don't look at demographic changes as inherently good or bad. We collectively make individual decisions that can be measured. All I see from your graphs is a bunch of Americans deciding working for the man is the best risk:reward career path. We're in a new world where lots of up front capital is required for worthy profit return. Education is the easiest calculable ROI, since black smithing isn't a viable enterprise any longer.

If entrepreneurship is the measure of success then we can look to the one of the highest per capita countries: Greece.
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Cute.

I know you're smart enough that you intended it that way..

Entrepreneurialism has nothing to do with the economic train wreck that is Greece. Greece, used an example, better belongs in the taxes thread (see: out of control SPENDING).
 
PKM said:
Cute.

I know you're smart enough that you intended it that way..

Entrepreneurialism has nothing to do with the economic train wreck that is Greece. Greece, used an example, better belongs in the taxes thread (see: out of control SPENDING).
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The point is there's no reason to freak out over shifting demographics (and politicize the hell out of it). I hear ad nauseam that George W. Antichrist Obama has destroyed the world because labor market participation is declining. As if increasing for fourth or so years could go on forever..

As to Greece, that's more of a rigid currency issue than anything, but the stupid Germans refuse to learn from history. Countries who dump their goods around the globe ALWAYS get theirs (US Great Depression, plaza accord Japan, Soon to be China if they don't adjust faster toward internal dependency). Germany is forcing its neighbors out of work with mercantilism and artificially high currency, and doing everything possible to keep their banks from taking it up the *** on bad bond bets in places like Greece. **** you, Germany.
 
Australia is soon to be one more example. 19% of that economy is mining. Commodities always decrease in cost over the long term and they're banking on this super cycle never ending. China can't build forever, so lookout Australia the future **** hole when 700 million tons of fake ore demand goes down to about 200mt, with a lot coming from recycling just like here.

Lets hope Canadia doesn't go to whoreville along with them.
 
franklin said:
The point is there's no reason to freak out over shifting demographics (and politicize the hell out of it). I hear ad nauseam that George W. Antichrist Obama has destroyed the world because labor market participation is declining. As if increasing for fourth or so years could go on forever..

As to Greece, that's more of a rigid currency issue than anything, but the stupid Germans refuse to learn from history. Countries who dump their goods around the globe ALWAYS get theirs (US Great Depression, plaza accord Japan, Soon to be China if they don't adjust faster toward internal dependency). Germany is forcing its neighbors out of work with mercantilism and artificially high currency, and doing everything possible to keep their banks from taking it up the *** on bad bond bets in places like Greece. **** you, Germany.
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No offense to you, though, Mr. Schroeder.
 
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