What's new

TMZ reports that Kobe Bryant passed away.

  • Thread starter Thread starter Deleted member 365
  • Start date Start date
Awesome job, mods.

The thread reached what, 15 pages, in the Jazz section four years ago without it occurring to anyone that it should go in general, but it takes two pages now.
 
Awesome job, mods.

The thread reached what, 15 pages, in the Jazz section four years ago without it occurring to anyone that it should go in general, but it takes two pages now.
lol. Who cares, it’s just a thread. Sometimes it’s best to just let it people converse, then let the thread “die”. Other times, 4 years later, after a necrobump, it’s better to move it. Both decisions can be right.

Relax.
 
I’m sorry if you’re a woman who’s been raped and courageous enough to press charges. I don’t see how you back out.
I’m going to assume the girl was raped, just like you are in this statement, and many others also believe.

Imagine being young, meeting a hero of yours, being invited to be around him, then having things escalate beyond what you expected. Assuming she said or signalled no to Kobe that his intentions were not consensual, and he continues and rapes her. This will ruin a girls mind. Without serious support it takes years and decades for some to recover, if ever tbh.

To have the courage to call out Kobe for raping her, that is huge. Humongous. Probably all she had.

Her identity was leaked to the public… that was mob stuff there. She got death threats and hate mail after that. Her reputation and life is being dragged through the mud. She has already allegedly attempted suicide before.

You are asking for one of the most courageous acts on earth from a young woman who was having a hard time before this trauma stacked on trauma. You want a Herculean valor from her to prove she told the truth? She probably weighed the costs and the odds of some psycho actually killing her and cut the line.

Just like Kobe’s team planned.

You saying you don’t see how she backs out?

I don’t see how she doesn’t.
 
Here you go, top link got this...


At a Glance
Blaming the victim is an unfortunate yet common phenomenon. It often happens because people make faulty attributions to explain events. But it can also be a way for people to feel safer by assuming that they would never become a victim. Blaming the victim might help protect people's worldview, but it deprives people who have been harmed from the empathy and support that they need.
It's so common and unfortunate. When it's a very minor thing watch how people react.

I live in Ethiopia and have had phones stolen. Whenever I say anything about it happening very few people say what you should say, oh sorry that really sucks or something like that. Usually its giving some sort of what did you do wrong or why didn't you do this or that. It's partially people patting themselves on the back that it didn't happen to them or trying to do what this says of making them feel safer/that it won't happen to them.
 
Take the rape out of the situation and think about it logically.

If someone hit my car and ran away or some other crime. I have evidence and accuse them. They decide to pay and make a public statement saying they believe that I think they hit my car. Should we all assume they are innocent because it didn't go to court and they got a guilty conviction?
 
@Jazz Spazz with back to back spot on posts.

And look, i will be completely honest and transparent. When the story came out I thought she was probably just looking for a payday. But that was a piss poor take for me to have.
 
It's so common and unfortunate. When it's a very minor thing watch how people react.

I live in Ethiopia and have had phones stolen. Whenever I say anything about it happening very few people say what you should say, oh sorry that really sucks or something like that. Usually its giving some sort of what did you do wrong or why didn't you do this or that. It's partially people patting themselves on the back that it didn't happen to them or trying to do what this says of making them feel safer/that it won't happen to them.
Exactly. It's human nature. Unfortunately our nature is often cruel. It's tough to fight our nature in things like this, takes an informed and concerted effort. And even those of us who really try slip now and then.
 
Last edited:
It's partially people patting themselves on the back that it didn't happen to them or trying to do what this says of making them feel safer/that it won't happen to them.

Not even partially but almost entirely. I often think about a study a decade or so ago done at McGill university that showed that while most people justify their own breaking of traffic laws by various levels of moral necessity, they explain others' by assuming deeper, character flaws. Victim blaming works on the same principle. When bad things happen to me, it's because of things completely outside my control. When bad things happen to others, it's because they somehow caused it.
 
When bad things happen to me, it's because of things completely outside my control. When bad things happen to others, it's because they somehow caused it.
People who do that drive me crazy, and it isn't the victim blaming that is usually wrong. Most bad things that happen to you are because of actions you took or neglected to take. Hate is a strong word that I am reluctant to use but I do truly hate this victim mentality that has become so pervasive in our society. Stop being a sheep and take some personal responsibility. You have agency.
 
People who do that drive me crazy, and it isn't the victim blaming that is usually wrong. Most bad things that happen to you are because of actions you took or neglected to take.

No, most bad things happen to you because you weren't lucky enough to be born in a situation where they simply cannot happen to you.
 
Back
Top