To all the Gordon Hayward Haters

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I have never said he was a number 1 option or even a number 2 option. I have always thought he was a number 2 option at best. My post was not at all idiotic. It further proves my point that he is inconsistent. It doesn't matter if we are trying to make the playoffs or not. That has nothing to do with him not showing up some nights. I also think it's easy to say he could be an AS if you put a number 1 option next to him. What if we do that and he is still the same old inconsistent Hayward? The Hayward love needs to stop. He's a 8-10 million per year player max. If we pay him anything more than that, we will come to regret it.

And I'm saying he's inconsistent because he shouldn't be a #1 option, and because of that you need to expect some dud games, but to say he doesn't show up is ummmm... Idiotic! Hayward a scorer yes, but not a great scorer like a Durant or LBJ, so when a team says to beat the jazz we can't let Hayward beat us with his scoring. Under these circumstances shouldn't we expect some 9 point games, and even then he's affecting the game with his defense and playmaking getting his teammates opportunities to score, and always playing hard. He's still developing in a way thanks to the road the jazz are taking. I think if he were playing off Al and Millsap he'd be doing much better then he is now.

 

[trigg3r]

And I'm saying he's inconsistent because he shouldn't be a #1 option, and because of that you need to expect some dud games, but to say he doesn't show up is ummmm... Idiotic! Hayward a scorer yes, but not a great scorer like a Durant or LBJ, so when a team says to beat the jazz we can't let Hayward beat us with his scoring. Under these circumstances shouldn't we expect some 9 point games, and even then he's affecting the game with his defense and playmaking getting his teammates opportunities to score, and always playing hard. He's still developing in a way thanks to the road the jazz are taking. I think if he were playing off Al and Millsap he'd be doing much better then he is now.

Where did I say he was like Durant or LeBon? Stop making arguments that never existed. I said he was inconsistent. He is. Take off your rose colored glasses and realize that or stop wasting my time.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Where did I say he was like Durant or LeBon? Stop making arguments that never existed. I said he was inconsistent. He is. Take off your rose colored glasses and realize that or stop wasting my time.

Good lord!! It's like arguing with 5year olds!

I never said that you implied he was like Durant or LBJ, just making a point as to why he's inconsistent, LOL... Never was arguing that he wasn't inconsistent. I was telling you why he has played inconsistent this year. I think your hate is blinding you and others to the facts. I'm the one that's being objective. I'm looking at who he is and the role he is playing, and seeing that they don't match, and also looking at the potential he has shown from game to game. He has shown in the past that he's a good shooter and looking at the situation he's in is hurting him rather then helping him. All your doing is looking at the numbers he's putting up and dismissing everything else.

 

[trigg3r]

Good lord!! It's like arguing with 5year olds!

I never said that you implied he was like Durant or LBJ, just making a point as to why he's inconsistent, LOL... Never was arguing that he wasn't inconsistent. I was telling you why he has played inconsistent this year. I think your hate is blinding you and others to the facts. I'm the one that's being objective. I'm looking at who he is and the role he is playing, and seeing that they don't match, and also looking at the potential he has shown from game to game. He has shown in the past that he's a good shooter and looking at the situation he's in is hurting him rather then helping him. All your doing is looking at the numbers he's putting up and dismissing everything else.

Yep. Must be my hate blinding me..... Are you going to continue writing these silly statements? If so, I have better things to do. Nobody hates anyone in this conversation. I pointed out that he is inconsistent and that it would be a mistake to pay him over 10. Please stop being dramatic.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Yep. Must be my hate blinding me..... Are you going to continue writing these silly statements? If so, I have better things to do. Nobody hates anyone in this conversation. I pointed out that he is inconsistent and that it would be a mistake to pay him over 10. Please stop being dramatic.

Silly to you, because you don't look at all the factors, so yes you are blind!

 

[bjunior]

i think he's the most consistent player on this team

just because sometimes his shot doesn't fall, doesn't make him an inconsistent player

he always ads something to the ball game: iq, smart plays, passing, defense, plays hard

and he never complains about his role (even when he was forced to play in the 2nd unit)

in order to keep him, the jazz will have to pay almost the max for sure

 

[trigg3r]

Silly to you, because you don't look at all the factors, so yes you are blind!

Yeah, I must be blind...... LOL

 

[trigg3r]

i think he's the most consistent player on this team

just because sometimes his shot doesn't fall, doesn't make him an inconsistent player

he always ads something to the ball game: iq, smart plays, passing, defense, plays hard

and he never complains about his role (even when he was forced to play in the 2nd unit)

in order to keep him, the jazz will have to pay almost the max for sure

Further proving that he should be traded. He is not a max or near max player. I have no problem with Gordon the person. He seems like a really nice guy. I just don't think he is worth what some do.

 

[Stoked]

Yeah, I must be blind...... LOL

That would be why you do not know why kids like cinammon toast crunch.

 

[bjunior]

Further proving that he should be traded. He is not a max or near max player. I have no problem with Gordon the person. He seems like a really nice guy. I just don't think he is worth what some do.

give us some inside, trade for whom?

 

[Stoked]

Further proving that he should be traded. He is not a max or near max player. I have no problem with Gordon the person. He seems like a really nice guy. I just don't think he is worth what some do.

I think you are selling him short. I think he will excel once a primary scorer is on the team. I truly can see Hayward averaging 20,5,5,1,1 and playing above average D wheen he is not the primary focus of the other teams D. If he does I would pay him 12 mill. Not to mention intangibles like his ability to make others better, glue guy, good locker room guy, hustle...

 

[jope]

That would be why you do not know why kids like cinammon toast crunch.

Its the taste you can see