It's hard to build character when you've been coddled and handed everything you have to you. Without character, anything you believe is built on nothing, and nothing is exactly what I see when I see Greg.
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It's hard to build character when you've been coddled and handed everything you have to you. Without character, anything you believe is built on nothing, and nothing is exactly what I see when I see Greg.
I had plenty of misgivings with him, but to do what he did from where he started is truly great. His heart was almost always in the right place, even if I think he majorly bungled on some things.
If I'm ever wildly rich (ha), my kids are only going to be as pampered as living in my modest home. Even though I haven't encountered anything resembling financial success, I was taught from a very young age to be self-reliant even if they could've afforded to buy me school clothes or the toys I wanted. They weren't dead-beats, and they weren't unfair, and even though I resented what others were given and what I had to fight for (and obviously still do to some extent), I'm glad that I had to learn that you have to work for and earn the things you want in life. That is a lesson you can't learn from reading a book or taught in a classroom. And it's especially not something you inherit through genes.
Stickler
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Absolutely. I can identify with Greg a little bit, because I am the son of a Great Man, and I know the pressures that go with trying to live up to that kind of shadow, and find your own way. It's not easy. Thank God my family didn't have any money. I can't imagine how screwed up I might have been. But whatever my failures, I don't own the Utah Jazz. Greg needs to display some courage and start swinging for the fences with this team.
Marty McFly
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There are two types of people in this world. Those with passion and those without it. Larry, Jerry, those guys had/have passion. You saw it in everything they did. I think Greg is too busy gelling his hair to give a crap like his dad. But that's just my impression.
I'm being pretty vicious with the guy, but I haven't seen anything I like about him. And I've heard things from people that work within the LHM group that I find disturbing as well.
But I really hope the rigors of the job give him the on-site growth he couldn't find anywhere else and this team somehow finds itself a new soul. What was left was on life-support as it was, but it's dead now. The last 25 years were a hell of a run, and looking back I marvel at the luck and patience this organization has had in developing a culture of tradition with unparalleled longevity. The connection between Jerry West and Kobe Bryant, or Red Aurbach and Doc Rivers is hardly identifiable. This organization had some combination of Hot Rod, Larry, Jerry, Phil, Stockton and Malone for 25 years. That's insane.
Sigh.
I really, really wanted that ****ing win tonight. I want so badly to believe. But I have to remind myself of the turmoil this franchise is in right now for perspective on the now while trying to shield myself from what it might mean if it doesn't correct itself.
But I really hope the rigors of the job give him the on-site growth he couldn't find anywhere else and this team somehow finds itself a new soul. What was left was on life-support as it was, but it's dead now. The last 25 years were a hell of a run, and looking back I marvel at the luck and patience this organization has had in developing a culture of tradition with unparalleled longevity. The connection between Jerry West and Kobe Bryant, or Red Aurbach and Doc Rivers is hardly identifiable. This organization had some combination of Hot Rod, Larry, Jerry, Phil, Stockton and Malone for 25 years. That's insane.
Sigh.
I really, really wanted that ****ing win tonight. I want so badly to believe. But I have to remind myself of the turmoil this franchise is in right now for perspective on the now while trying to shield myself from what it might mean if it doesn't correct itself.
BetterThanESPN
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The game went sour after Kirilenko limped off the court. Is he that important to the team? I can't believe no one stopped to help carry him to the locker room.. they just watched him hop like a one-legged pirate.
Stickler
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I hadn't even realized that until you said it. What the **** is it with this team? That's not the way it should be. Whatever happened to all for one and one for all? I think I've been fooling myself for a long time, believing in this Jazz team with the faith of a true believer. This isn't the Utah Jazz anymore. This team doesn't have the fight, the passion, and the zanshin of the Stockton and Malone era. I want it back. All I want is some fight, some life in these guys. Where is the fire? Where is the comradeship? These people are not in the foxhole together.
The good old days are gone and they are not coming back. Besides the good old days were not all good (zero championships) . Do I need to remind people that the Jazz have been overrated by their fans the last 3 or 4 years. Yes the Jazz have had a good team. Just good enough to make playoffs and win a series but instead of improving on the team, management and some fans wanted to stay the course and let the young team mature, holding onto their "favorite" player(s) while the rest of the league was reloading. It is this mentally that holds the franchise back.
The Jazz are not a very good team. It wasn't Sloan's fault and it is not Corbin's fault. It is KOC's job to bring in talent and to manage the finances. KOC's own performance has been average and that is why the team is just ok. In the NBA talent wins and the Jazz lack talent. Until they realize it they will be just average team and things will get worse if they stay the course.
The Jazz are not a very good team. It wasn't Sloan's fault and it is not Corbin's fault. It is KOC's job to bring in talent and to manage the finances. KOC's own performance has been average and that is why the team is just ok. In the NBA talent wins and the Jazz lack talent. Until they realize it they will be just average team and things will get worse if they stay the course.
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fairweather
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Scoring 56 in the first half and 27 in the second? Wth happened?
That interview with Malone during the game made me ill. Really liked him as a player. Could definitely see him as a strength and conditioning coach, but no way should this man be a coach. He's just too dumb...
That interview with Malone during the game made me ill. Really liked him as a player. Could definitely see him as a strength and conditioning coach, but no way should this man be a coach. He's just too dumb...
The other 4 players were on the other end of the court as he was getting up. AK got off the court pretty fast. Fes and somebody else did greet him as he was coming off, but AK didn't indicate he needed any help.