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Trade Confirmed: Jazz get jack for Bogey


SoberasHotRod

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THis upcoming year in the draft. You hope one of Lauri/Sexton can fault themselves into being an All-Star level player. You hope you can sign a borderline all-star guy in UFA that could elevate himself to an all-star in the right situation. Or you trade the future picks for an all-star if one you like becomes available.

That does seem to be the plan, it just doesn't seem like we're giving ourselves a enough good chances.

- If Sexton becomes an all star level player, it's likely a borderline all star.
- Lauri has a long way to go at the NBA level to be an all star
- Our best chance at an all star is the 2023 draft, but we don't seem to be maximizing our probability of landing one
- The only UFA we've signed from another team that has become an all star level player is Boozer, I'm pretty sure in the history of the franchise. It seems like there is a very small chance of that being successful.
- Trading our picks for a star shouldn't happen until we already have at least one, and is dependent on the one you need becoming available.
 


infection

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How did we get a ****ing haul for Donovan then?
Reputation. Inside people will overvalue their own assets (see DL and Exum or Favors or numerous issues) while outside people will undervalue them (see DA and Bojan, and the jury is really still out on the Gobert trade and there’s a very realistic possibility that we traded our #3 franchise player for a handful of picks in the 20s).
 

infection

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This is the kind of thing that happens when the player is over 30 ,wants a bus ticket out immediately ,and makes it known to everyone, he wants out. The fact Ainge was only able to get a player he drafted back in Boston, to agree to play for his tanking team, and agree to not cause a fuss about being traded there, because he would have a potential starting job,should not be surprising.
Where did he say he wanted out? And where’s this idea that when a player wants out you take $0.10 on the dollar? This was the argument on the Kanter trade, that somehow we were beholden to his demands to be traded, we got **** in return, and three months later there were at least two franchises that were willing to give him the max.
 

Handlogten's Heros

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No one said he is crying poor but he knows there are plenty of captive customers who are not happy and want out. I know this from firsthand experience dealing with a season ticket rep. Smith blew it on a rebrand and now has a product that lots of loyal fans dont care about. It will be interesting to see what happens next year with ticket prices and season ticket renewals.
That's fine... its part of the cycle... you don't need to cut costs cuz some customers are angry. Even if renewals suck he will be rolling in dough Scrooge McDuck style.

I also think this is a distaste from Ryan and Ainge to fully tank. We are headed straight for the #11 seed in the West with the current roster... we need to be 13th/14th and be totally fine with it.
 

Eddie Zero

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Where did he say he wanted out? And where’s this idea that when a player wants out you take $0.10 on the dollar? This was the argument on the Kanter trade, that somehow we were beholden to his demands to be traded, we got **** in return, and three months later there were at least two franchises that were willing to give him the max.
you missed the fact he is paid too much and over 30 I guess? everyone knew the minute they traded Rudy that he wanted out
 

Handlogten's Heros

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Where did he say he wanted out? And where’s this idea that when a player wants out you take $0.10 on the dollar? This was the argument on the Kanter trade, that somehow we were beholden to his demands to be traded, we got **** in return, and three months later there were at least two franchises that were willing to give him the max.
There is also the "we wanted to open up time at the forward spots". Guess what... you sent a player out... took a player in that is a center but will push Vando into some minutes at the 4... so is Lauri playing at the 3... cuz Bogey is better suited for that. We could have waited and done Bogey at the 3, Lauri at the 4 and Vando at the 5.... I bet you KO starts at the 5, Vando at the 4 and Lauri at the 3 now... so did you open up more time at the forward spots?

If Vando can't play the majority of his minutes at the 5 then we should be shopping him... cuz he won't fit unless you have a shooting 5.
 

Elizah Huge

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That's fine... its part of the cycle... you don't need to cut costs cuz some customers are angry. Even if renewals suck he will be rolling in dough Scrooge McDuck style.

I also think this is a distaste from Ryan and Ainge to fully tank. We are headed straight for the #11 seed in the West with the current roster... we need to be 13th/14th and be totally fine with it.

Bet the house on over 24.5 wins.
 

slc

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Just thinking there has to be more trades to come
Thinking Ainge had a couple good trades for Bogey on the table that got pulled
This was all he was left with
Now he has to create another trade or two to get him what he wants
 

homeytennis

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OK who gets whacked that is currently on the roster? I predict that Gay, Butler, Lee and Dok get waived and that Zeller makes the team. This assumes no more trades.
 


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