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I'm telling you guys... Ingles/Doke and a 2027 top 8 protected 1st for Kenny Hustle and Muscala... its as good of a dart throw as we have. Muscala has turned into prime locked in Mirotic... @infection go look at it. Solves an issue on the wing... solves the backup center issue. Then you can use Royce or the trade exception to address other needs.

I don't think Kenny gets a first by himself... they likely don't care much for some ****** seconds. If they can offload those guys it really aids the tank. We can even amend the pick protections on the other pick if need be. Adds win now guys while not breaking the budget for next year. Do it damn it.
You're aware that there are reports that Muscala has been playing through a painful ankle stress fracture and may need surgery after the season, aren't you? And that OKC may be limiting his minutes because of this?
 
This report from Marc Stein on the Jazz doesn't sound promising. Says there is internal instability that stems from a growing suspicion that Ainge wants to make major changes. Also says it's a borderline soap opera right now.

 
You're aware that there are reports that Muscala has been playing through a painful ankle stress fracture and may need surgery after the season, aren't you? And that OKC may be limiting his minutes because of this?
Not to mention that he's an Azubuike-level rebounder?
 
You're aware that there are reports that Muscala has been playing through a painful ankle stress fracture and may need surgery after the season, aren't you? And that OKC may be limiting his minutes because of this?
I heard that, but he’s still playing really well. It’s also the type of thing you use to explain why you aren’t playing your best players more because you are trying to tank. There is zero reason to limit Kenny’s minutes.

His contract has a team option on second year so if he can’t go then you have an out.
 
This report from Marc Stein on the Jazz doesn't sound promising. Says there is internal instability that stems from a growing suspicion that Ainge wants to make major changes. Also says it's a borderline soap opera right now.


Maybe it will be written up in some future Sports Management textbook as a case study in how to move your odds from winning a championship from 15% to 0% in two short months.
 
I heard that, but he’s still playing really well. It’s also the type of thing you use to explain why you aren’t playing your best players more because you are trying to tank. There is zero reason to limit Kenny’s minutes.

His contract has a team option on second year so if he can’t go then you have an out.
Can't tell if you're talking about Muscala or Williams here. Or shifting from one to the other?
 
Saw this one I kind of liked from an OKC fan.

Utah In: Kenrich Williams
Utah Out: Ingles/Gay/adjust the protections on the '24 pick (top 4 protected or something) so it either conveys or turns into 2nds/pick swap in '26

OKC In: Ingles/adjusted '24 1st/'26 pick swap
OKC Out: Kenrich

DAL In: Gay
DAL Out: Maybe a 2nd to Utah

We get under the tax line, get somebody cheap who can play and all it really costs is a '26 first swap (I'd push for some light protections). Not sending Gay to Siberia is also a nice plus, don't want to do him too dirty after signing with us.
I’m over the moon with it except have no idea why we’re trading Gay.
 
15%?

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Give or take. Weren't the only clear teams that had significantly better shots (according to Vegas) at the start of the season the Lakers and Nets? And time has proven that Vegas was probably too high on them. Certainly at the end of November, the Jazz were as much in the mix as any of 5 or 6 other teams.
 
Not to mention that he's an Azubuike-level rebounder?
When Gobert is out are there even any rebounds? No!

If he is on the floor with Gay and Williams we will be fine. His defensive rebounding is okay... he doesn't get many offensive rebounds because he's 30 feet from the hoop banging threes.
 
Can't tell if you're talking about Muscala or Williams here. Or shifting from one to the other?
I was saying you might say a guy has a terrible injury to help explain why he isn't playing more if you were tanking. So talking about Muscala. We only need 15 minutes a night from him anyway.

They only play Kenny 21 minutes a night when they should be giving him 48. The injury with Muscala makes it look like they have a little integrity rather than just tanking **** hard.
 
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