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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Crashing? They have Giannis my dude. They are never going to crash as long as he is playing.
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Exactly. Giannis plays a very physical game and has been dodging major injuries in his career so far. But who knows when his body’s gonna break down. And when he misses time, the rest of the Milwaukee roster is gonna struggle to hold up.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
NYK owns two fake first from Washington/Detroit that have chances to never convey. That's probably what we would get.
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That's like one of those fake OKC packages for Lauri in which they included all of their own picks that will likely be in the late 20s while keeping all the Clipper firsts for themselves. Why would we accept such low-ball?
 
jom2003 said:
That's really interesting because Knicks have the Pistons and Wizards’ protected firsts that likely will never convey
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I think there is a good chance the wiz pick never conveys but I do like that pistons pick with 4 years left on it.
 
Elizah Huge said:
No, I’m saying we need the cap space so anyone on a long-term deal needs to be traded first. THT can just expire this off-season worst case.
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Except we don't really need the cap space so we can just sit and wait on all the long term deals to become short term deals in a couple of years. Plus if we don't want those long term deals for ourselves, why would any other team want them? We might have to accept other teams low-ball offers if we want to move JC right now whereas expiring contracts like THT and KO are the leagues most sought after commodities that will always have value irregardless.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
Why didn't they do anything when he was available for like three straight years?
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Because the teams that might have wanted Collins couldn't give Atlanta what they wanted, immediate cap relief. Also, Atlanta kept thinking they were going to get draft assets back for the first two years. Jazz aren't in a salary crunch like Atlanta was and they don't necessarily need picks back. Jazz trading Collins looks different from Atlanta trading Collins.

I also don't think that the Jazz are desperate to trade Collins, the GMs on Jazzfanz notwithstanding.
 
Hmmmm pretty solid move for both teams since Raps apparently never want to rebuild. Rebalances rosters.
 
Jaanipoeg said:
I am definitely against trading Lauri, and I get the concept of "well we don't want to trade him so you have to absolutely blow us away", but that is a fantastic haul for him. Yeah, the Clips picks are nice but cmon. Cason is absolutely a blue chip prospect in my mind, the 2024 Rockets pick is more likely than not to be lottery, getting our own pick back would be massive, Dieng is an interesting young stretch-4, unprotected picks 5-6 years out are always valuable (even if OKC is primed to be a juggernaut, **** can definitely happen), I wouldn't have to watch THT anymore.

Still against trading Lauri, but that trade seems to be a massive haul beyond what I think we can expect.
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I want to give our pick to OKC THIS year because the draft is really, really terrible. I don't understand giving up Lauri for the chance to have 3 picks in this crappy draft, late lottery or not. WHEN the picks happen is as much a factor as to how high they are. If I am OKC and someone is willing to give me something of value for all of my 2024 picks I do that deal before I let the other party off of the phone.
 
jom2003 said:
That's like one of those fake OKC packages for Lauri in which they included all of their own picks that will likely be in the late 20s while keeping all the Clipper firsts for themselves. Why would we accept such low-ball?
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Well, one of those picks *could* covey at some point if things go right for those teams. It will also eventually become a 2nd rounder, which would be a high 2nd rounder.

You do it because you can't get anything else for Clarkson and you no longer want him on the team.
 
jom2003 said:
Except we don't really need the cap space so we can just sit and wait on all the long term deals to become short term deals in a couple of years. Plus if we don't want those long term deals for ourselves, why would any other team want them? We might have to accept other teams low-ball offers if we want to move JC right now whereas expiring contracts like THT and KO are the leagues most sought after commodities that will always have value irregardless.
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We do need it though. If we renegotiate and extend Lauri we will have limited cap space if we don’t make some moves. Still a decent amount but not a ton.
 
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