Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[TheStormofWar]

Do the owners really think they can win a championship with this group they are in fairy land if they don’t make any trades I’m going to spew up

I think the smoke is they're wanting to have a player or two in the ASG so they have the facade they don't have to trade a player now if it's not in their long term plans. It's classic GM obfuscation, but it's also hard to ignore how much the Jazz love the treadmill.

 

[Ineptimusprime]

So either: (a) in what would be very out of character for the franchise, the FO is BSing everyone about running it back to make sure they maximize return on any trades; or (b) consistent with the entire course of human history, the Utah Jazz are so terrified of being un-good that they are serious and actually are going to run it back.

I know which option I think it is. Lol.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So either: (a) in what would be very out of character for the franchise, the FO is BSing everyone about running it back to make sure they maximize return on any trades; or (b) consistent with the entire course of human history, the Utah Jazz are so terrified of being un-good that they are serious and actually are going to run it back.

I know which option I think it is. Lol.

Its the whole, Utah can't tank... they are a small market and would basically have to sell the team lie. We can't have a terrible team that is embarrassing when hosting the AS game. Everyone will think Utah is the worst place ever.

Tony Jones already started putting out the company defense of "lolz... they wouldn't do that... lolz". But everyone already heard the reasoning from multiple sources... when people called it super dumb the messaging changes. We could be walking into the most depressing era of Jazz basketball sans the early years when they came from NO.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The great news is it sounds like the Lakers are talking themselves into thinking that Westbrook was not the problem... Vogel was... so they may try and make it work one more season... which will provide so many more LOLs.

 

[Hekate]

The great news is it sounds like the Lakers are talking themselves into thinking that Westbrook was not the problem... Vogel was... so they may try and make it work one more season... which will provide so many more LOLs.

That roster has many more problems than Westbrook but blaming just Vogel is a mutated version of an ostrich burying its 4 heads with like 5 eyes each in the sand.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

That roster has many more problems than Westbrook but blaming just Vogel is a mutated version of an ostrich burying its 4 heads with like 5 eyes each in the sand.

I worked in a warehouse and any time a screw up happened we had a code… blame whoever is not on shift when asked… no one would get mad and we just kept blaming others until the issue was forgotten about. It worked really well. It feels like the lakers are doing the same thing with Vogel. They blamed Lebron for a minute and his agency… when it doesn’t work they will blame Phil or the Rambii’

It’s amazing to watch how bush league that franchise is… a silver lining.

 

[Avery]

What's interesting this offseason is just how many teams that have a window in front of them all know they need to make moves to compete. Off the top of my head starting with the West:

Clippers
Lakers
Suns
Jazz

In the East:

Nets
76ers
Bucks

All these teams were considered in the mix for title aspirations with young stars and some declining vets. I really can't see a lot of these teams running it back with the possible exception of the Suns.

I think there will be significant movement this offseason as the window closes. With no premium draft picks this year to dangle, all of these teams would have to mortgage their future if they want to compete now.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If San Antonio offered Poeltl, Zach Collins, Keldon Johnson, #9 and #25 for Gobert, would you take it?

Assume the Jazz draft Dyson Daniels at #9 and either Wendell Moore or E.J. Liddell at #25.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If San Antonio offered Poeltl, Zach Collins, Keldon Johnson, #9 and #25 for Gobert, would you take it?

Assume the Jazz draft Dyson Daniels at #9 and either Wendell Moore or E.J. Liddell at #25.

vs what else?

 

[Elizah Huge]

If San Antonio offered Poeltl, Zach Collins, Keldon Johnson, #9 and #25 for Gobert, would you take it?

Assume the Jazz draft Dyson Daniels at #9 and either Wendell Moore or E.J. Liddell at #25.

They would never offer that lol.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

They would never offer that lol.

They'd offer Poeltl. They'd offer #9 and #25, leaving them with #20 in this draft. They might not offer both Zach and Keldon depending on how they feel about those two players. If not, they'd have to swap in Josh Richardson or Doug McDermott for salary, and I'm not sure how the Jazz would feel about that. If the Spurs are going to make an offer for Gobert, it would need to be similar to that.

Going forward, Spurs would be Murray/Primo/Vassell/ ?? / Gobert. Gobert is a pretty significant upgrade.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If San Antonio offered Poeltl, Zach Collins, Keldon Johnson, #9 and #25 for Gobert, would you take it?

Assume the Jazz draft Dyson Daniels at #9 and either Wendell Moore or E.J. Liddell at #25.

I mean I think we'd take that in 1 second.

They love Keldon... Not sure what their cap space plans are but if you got Poeltl/9/Vassell plus cap savings or Richardson then I think you'd consider yourself lucky.