We literally beat the Clippers if he’s healthy.
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We literally beat the Clippers if he’s healthy.
RandyForRubio
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Mitchell. A future HOF player? Bro…cmon lol
How am I changing the narrative? Quit grafting criticisms made of you into arguments that make no sense.
In no scenario is trading a few mediocre players for a former franchise player that became an All-Star and the floor general for the league's best offense the worst move a franchise has ever made. I don't care the team or the context. That's not a thing.
LoPo
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We beat the Clippers if Donovan was healthy
Mitchell will pretty easily make HOF barring tragic injury. You pass a certain threshold of points scored in a career you and automatically make it. Mitchell will do that.
He was healthy. He played every game that series. He wasn’t 100% but if you deny the fact that we win that series if Conley is healthy then you’re more far gone than I thought. I think you are a legit hater of Gobert/Conley.
AKA the +/- gods of the team.
LoPo
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Eventually, you will realize that the Conley trade cost us more than just two first round picks. He cost us Rudy Gobert and maybe even Donovan Mitchell. Even Rudy in his press conference said that the window had closed in Utah. Why did it close? Because we lacked assets. Why did we lack assets?
Eventually.....
Because we traded a lottery pick for a one year rental of George Hill? Or when we used a first to acquire Ricky Rubio? Or when we drafted Dante Exum in the top-5 or when we traded up for Tony Bradley in the first? Or when we drafted Udoka Azubuike in the first? Or when we traded a first to get off of Favors contract?
Also, Conley averaged 17-9 on 54% from 3 in the Memphis series...
He averaged 20-5 in the Nuggets series on 53% From 3.
He had his first bad series with Utah this past year (the entire team did, so maybe it was more macro related than anything to do with any singular individual). He made a huge difference in the two series he was healthy for. If he was healthy in the Clippers series and carried over his performances from the Grizzlies series even like half-way, the Jazz would have made it to the WCF.
Criticize his health all you want, but the dude was a huge difference maker when he played.
LoPo
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Donovan was not healthy in the Clippers series. How could you even argue that with a straight face?
Conley was 100% healthy when he came in for the Denver and Dallas series. He didn't impact either one in a positive way.
I don't dislike Conley. I hated the trade. Rudy is what he is, and we didn't have the assets to build around what Rudy needs to be a centerpiece on an actual contender. So I argued that we needed to trade now (which is what Ainge did and everybody respects what he got). Doesn't mean I hate those guys.
I'm a hater on KD and Kyrie. Don't like those guys at all.