Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Mongoose]

I'm aware of that, but getting two seasons of Ricky, 1 with Hill, and two good seasons of Conley over that period for the 4 picks (and also the Exum pick I guess) is better than getting a half season of good Favs for 3 FRPs. We also invested in guys that were starters and not trying to backup a position we filled with a 30-40M a year cornerstone.

The process/logic has to be sound for me. If you need a starting point guard and use some draft capital to get them then it at least makes some sense. The amount of capital allocated to a backup position while adding no variance is staggering... to fail to address the need is just incredible.

But it also doesn't make sense when they were talking about how they played positionless basketball. If that really was the case then they did fill the PG position with a 30-40M a year cornerstone in Don. There are plenty of ball handlers the jazz could have went with that weren't strictly PG's.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

bill simmons trade value column - this is a homeless man's version of those he used to do back in the 00s, but while one can quibble with a few of his placements, it's pretty representative of reality, imo. though i think you'd struggle to pry LeBron away from LAL in spite of his age - i'd probably put him in group C, D or E.

NBA Trade Value List: Summer 2022 Edition

It’s back! As summer league winds down and the NBA finally hits its true offseason, Bill Simmons takes stock of the league, breaking down the 64 most valuable trade assets heading into 2022-23.

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I would disagree with a bunch of his stuff here but its hard to do.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

But it also doesn't make sense when they were talking about how they played positionless basketball. If that really was the case then they did fill the PG position with a 30-40M a year cornerstone in Don. There are plenty of ball handlers the jazz could have went with that weren't strictly PG's.

You can also play multiple pgs though. I was one of the guys touting Donovan as a "pg" early. Like it still makes way more sense than burning all that **** on centers... none of which could shoot or projected as shooters.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

I would disagree with a bunch of his stuff here but its hard to do.

same. i'm definitely no bill simmons apologist, but he did a good job there.

 

[LogGrad98]

You can also play multiple pgs though. I was one of the guys touting Donovan as a "pg" early. Like it still makes way more sense than burning all that **** on centers... none of which could shoot or projected as shooters.

But the hand pads!

 

[Jazzman12]

You know Bev would be up Don's *** when he played ****** defense at least.

Absolutely. I don’t think I’m overstating this: If the Jazz really do end up retooling around Don, playing alongside PB could legitimately change the trajectory of Don’s career.

Beverly does not care how big of a star you are. If you’re on his team, and you give a **** effort, he’s gonna crawl all the way inside your *** and set up camp there until you get with the program.

IMO, it’s EXACTLY what Don needs at this point.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If you put it that way then the handling of starting PG position was just as damaging. Investing multiple FRPs(one of which was a lottery pick) on PG rentals that each have only produced no more than two good seasons of basketball, especially when teams have showed that you can win without one.

You are comparing a position that is worth about 15 mpg vs about 30 mpg...

Yes, you invest more in starters, that should be pretty self evident.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Haha beat me to it.

Someone said some **** like 2-3 dudes, one being Mobley AND we got picks in that scenario for Don.

Like, Jesus Christ you guys….

Just the same it’s dumb as hell to think the jazz would pick Sexton over Mitchell especially after what we just got for Gobert. It’s like people are devaluating Don and it’s so ****ing idiotic. Thanks to the Gobert package we can just keep Don.

Don should be in our plans period!! He’s that good a player. We are… should be a bad team next year with or without don. We can get a star to place next to Mitchell. That’s a fast and quick rebuild with room to sign some really good players.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Rule no. 5: Bizarre real-life trades SHOULD affect the list

The Timberwolves just paid 225 cents on the dollar for Rudy Gobert (last six playoff series: 1-5), then hilariously bragged about how they held onto Jaden McDaniels afterward. If the Celtics made a trade like that, you’d find me in the fetal position in the middle of the “Pine Barrens” forest 80 hours later. I had Gobert in the mid-40s before that bathsaltsian trade. Today? He’s gotta crack the top 30, right? How could Minnesota trade him now? And how could Brooklyn trade KD for anything less? Even KD straight-up for Jaden McDaniels wouldn’t be enough.

This was hilarious by Simmons.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Just the same it’s dumb as hell to think the jazz would pick Sexton over Mitchell especially after what we just got for Gobert. It’s like people are devaluating Don and it’s so ****ing idiotic. Thanks to the Gobert package we can just keep Don.

Don should be in our plans period!! He’s that good a player. We are… should be a bad team next year with or without don. We can get a star to place next to Mitchell. That’s a fast and quick rebuild with room to sign some really good players.

I highly doubt (was going to say unequivocally nobody, but i've learned my lesson) thinks the jazz would pick sexton over mitchell straight up if the only goal is to win now. i have to think anybody who would make that trade would do it in the interest of moving toward a tank and/or getting draft picks back in return.

 

[Elizah Huge]

same. i'm definitely no bill simmons apologist, but he did a good job there.

I like Simmons a lot. I think he’s super good at what he does.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Just the same it’s dumb as hell to think the jazz would pick Sexton over Mitchell especially after what we just got for Gobert. It’s like people are devaluating Don and it’s so ****ing idiotic. Thanks to the Gobert package we can just keep Don.

Don should be in our plans period!! He’s that good a player. We are… should be a bad team next year with or without don. We can get a star to place next to Mitchell. That’s a fast and quick rebuild with room to sign some really good players.

Stars want to come to Utah so badly....