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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

Handlogten's Heros said:
So they going to pay him $20M a year? I think he plays for the QO and hits FA next year unrestricted if he is on the Cavs.

I think it will cost some draft comp of some sort to get him. I might just wait it out though if I was Ainge. We will have cap space obvi.
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I think Sexton is holding out hope something happens that makes a team want to get him.

Maybe he takes the QO but it's a huge risk. I would just take the guaranteed money on the table and try to get less years with a player option.

The QO means he wont get traded and will have to stay in Cleveland all year, and they might not be putting him in the best role to maximize his next contract.
 
Jingled said:
How many of these guys are actually going to be on the roster when the season starts?


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Conley will be. They will try to trade him mid season.

Mitchell won’t be.

Bojan and Clarkson are kinda 50/50. If the Lakers deal goes down there is a good chance both are in that deal, if it doesn’t, then I think Clarkson’s market might be pinched, but I think you could find a decent deal for Bojan without much issue.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I think Sexton is holding out hope something happens that makes a team want to get him.

Maybe he takes the QO but it's a huge risk. I would just take the guaranteed money on the table and try to get less years with a player option.

The QO means he wont get traded and will have to stay in Cleveland all year, and they might not be putting him in the best role to maximize his next contract.
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I think the offer on the table is 3/40 and it’s a player option at year three. QO is like 7-8M. It’s a risk but I think he gets 3/40M offer next year even if this year goes poorly. He also almost surely leaves and it’s not a guarantee he stays there… they could move him.

I’m usually a take the money guy but in his situation If it’s 3/40 or QO I would say take the QO and we will get 4/80 or 4/100 next year on the market.

I just don’t view the current Cavs offer as a “we want to keep you and value you” type of offer. I think it’s a “we hope you sign this and become a valuable trade chip for us”.

I’d communicate a ton of interest now and say “look at all this space we have next year… remember us next summer if we can’t figure something else out now.”
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think the offer on the table is 3/40 and it’s a player option at year three. QO is like 7-8M. It’s a risk but I think he gets 3/40M offer next year even if this year goes poorly. He also almost surely leaves and it’s not a guarantee he stays there… they could move him.

I’m usually a take the money guy but in his situation If it’s 3/40 or QO I would say take the QO and we will get 4/80 or 4/100 next year on the market.

I just don’t view the current Cavs offer as a “we want to keep you and value you” type of offer. I think it’s a “we hope you sign this and become a valuable trade chip for us”.

I’d communicate a ton of interest now and say “look at all this space we have next year… remember us next summer if we can’t figure something else out now.”
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He might not get those numbers though, especially if he gets hurt again. Then he's just going to start a 3/40 type contract a year later than he could have. Also, you can do 3 years then become a FA when the cap rises dramatically (is that 24 or 25?) If you do the QO now you are a free agent in 23, is he trying to sign a 4 year deal that will have him underpaid for the back half?

Just take the 3/40 w/ a player option and start your money making contract now, get out in 2024 (hope you get traded before that). Cleveland will put him in better spots. Hell they might be playing Ochai Abagi over him as the season progresses if he takes the QO.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I think Sexton is holding out hope something happens that makes a team want to get him.

Maybe he takes the QO but it's a huge risk. I would just take the guaranteed money on the table and try to get less years with a player option.

The QO means he wont get traded and will have to stay in Cleveland all year, and they might not be putting him in the best role to maximize his next contract.
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All of this comes down to the Cavs, ultimately. They are giving him a totally dog **** offer and if they’re not willing to negotiate in good faith then I think it’s in Sexton’s best interest to seriously consider and definitely signal taking the QO. Either way, I don’t think bilking a player out of tens of millions of dollars is a great way to build a locker room.

They can try to manage him as a good asset on the court but they are rolling dice here. And I don’t think if they really value him that much that they roll dice like this.

Beasley (a guy who scored 20 ppg the same year that Sexton scored 24) and the Royce 1st is a much better proposition than rolling dice.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
He might not get those numbers though, especially if he gets hurt again.
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I think you are over-shooting the seriousness of his injury. He could’ve done the thing most players do with a meniscus tear and just cut it out arthroscopically and been back in a few weeks, but he decided to repair it and sit because that’s the wiser long term play.

That is not to say that there is no risk of injury now, I’m just saying I don’t think his risk is pronounced.
 
NUMBERICA said:
All of this comes down to the Cavs, ultimately. They are giving him a totally dog **** offer and if they’re not willing to negotiate in good faith then I think it’s in Sexton’s best interest to seriously consider and definitely signal taking the QO. Either way, I don’t think bilking a player out of tens of millions of dollars is a great way to build a locker room.

They can try to manage him as a good asset on the court but they are rolling dice here. And I don’t think if they really value him that much that they roll dice like this.

Beasley (a guy who scored 20 ppg the same year that Sexton scored 24) and the Royce 1st is a much better proposition than rolling dice.
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It's probably not best practices, but they can do it and are seemingly successfully doing so. Sexton can be a negative moody dude all he wants, but in the end it's only going to hurt him.

And the dude hasnt even gotten an offer sheet from anyone and the team was dramatically better this past year despite him not being around. Every year he has played his on/off has been negative. He's a bad defender and is known as being a more "me first" guy. I think Cleveland is definitely squeezing him, but it's not a super dramatic squeeze. They have legitimate reason for not being all in on paying him the money he wants.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
He might not get those numbers though, especially if he gets hurt again. Then he's just going to start a 3/40 type contract a year later than he could have. Also, you can do 3 years then become a FA when the cap rises dramatically (is that 24 or 25?) If you do the QO now you are a free agent in 23, is he trying to sign a 4 year deal that will have him underpaid for the back half?

Just take the 3/40 w/ a player option and start your money making contract now, get out in 2024 (hope you get traded before that). Cleveland will put him in better spots. Hell they might be playing Ochai Abagi over him as the season progresses if he takes the QO.
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Its a risk... he'd at least find a minimum deal somewhere if something catastrophic happened. He'd be betting $30M but the upside is like a 4/$100M deal imo. I just think if 3/40 is all they will offer that a trade offer of like JC and the philly first or one of the protected firsts we get in the NY deal would likely get it done and land him something like 4/80M-ish.

It really depends on his life situation... off the court money (likely not a lot), etc. I would not blame him for taking the security for sure.
 
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