Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Handlogten's Heros]

Plain and simple - I don't want Hayward. We are really going to trade a guy willing to be loyal to Utah for the guy who royally screwed us over?

I'm really high on PJ Washington, but he's still a work in progress. Two picks in the teens are risky. Hayward is overpaid and often hurt and he's a douche.

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Solid two way wings with on ball and off ball value don't grow on trees... and I think this is the best potential deal on the table that balances future and present. If he was healthy all the time he wouldn't be available... health is priced in already... so if he is healthy its a huge bonus. Plus he could rebound and you send him to Siberia for assets at the trade deadline or offseason. Do it on the 4th or July or something.

PJ is already a functional starter with potential for more... most draft picks are risky... we won't be getting like an all-star and a starter or a top 5 pick for Rudy. His deal is the riskiest contract in the trade.

 

[LoPo]

Solid two way wings with on ball and off ball value don't grow on trees... and I think this is the best potential deal on the table that balances future and present. If he was healthy all the time he wouldn't be available... health is priced in already... so if he is healthy its a huge bonus. Plus he could rebound and you send him to Siberia for assets at the trade deadline or offseason. Do it on the 4th or July or something.

PJ is already a functional starter with potential for more... most draft picks are risky... we won't be getting like an all-star and a starter or a top 5 pick for Rudy. His deal is the riskiest contract in the trade.

I understand. If we are trading with Charlotte, they don't have a good player to send back and they don't have a pick that will be in the top 10. I just don't think we have to take back Gordon's negative value.

PJ, Oubre, Plumlee and a load of picks works financially. We could also look at Bouknight and Thor too.

Charlotte just doesn't excite me straight up.

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[Handlogten's Heros]

I understand. If we are trading with Charlotte, they don't have a good player to send back and they don't have a pick that will be in the top 10. I just don't think we have to take back Gordon's negative value.

PJ, Oubre, Plumlee and a load of picks works financially. We could also look at Bouknight and Thor too.

Charlotte just doesn't excite me straight up.

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They have to balance the books though... if there is a Rudy to Charlotte deal I'd bet large sums of money Hayward is in it. He could be spun off to a third team but I think he's a great buy low project.

 

[outerspacefan]

Hayward back is a ****** idea.
I'd put my fandom on hold as long as that sovereign son of a snake is in any way related to the Jazz.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Hayward is also 32 y.o. Jazz are going to be pushing their timeline back if they move their 30-somethings. If the Jazz take Hayward's contract, they're probably not going to be able to move it later.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I think this could work...

Utah Trades: Gobert
Utah Receives: Capella, Hunter, #7

Atlanta Trades: Capella, Collins, Hunter, #16
Atlanta Receives: Gobert, Barnes

Sacto Trades: Barnes, #7
Sacto Receives: Collins, #16

 

[homeytennis]

Hayward is also 32 y.o. Jazz are going to be pushing their timeline back if they move their 30-somethings. If the Jazz take Hayward's contract, they're probably not going to be able to move it later.

Plus he left in such a gutless way that I don't see how the fans would ever accept him. Perhaps Ainge likes him because of what he was able to put over on the Jazz, but he might be the only person in Utah that harbors warm feelings for Haywood.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Plus he left in such a gutless way that I don't see how the fans would ever accept him. Perhaps Ainge likes him because of what he was able to put over on the Jazz, but he might be the only person in Utah that harbors warm feelings for Haywood.

This stuff I understand... would be hard to stomach at first... can't say I'd ever get used to it again. He is still a very good player when healthy.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think this could work...

Utah Trades: Gobert
Utah Receives: Capella, Hunter, #7

Atlanta Trades: Capella, Collins, Hunter, #16
Atlanta Receives: Gobert, Barnes

Sacto Trades: Barnes, #7
Sacto Receives: Collins, #16

Man that Sacramento defense would be so rough. I do think they would like to find a way to get someone in beyond Barnes deal... FAs don't go there so the long Collins deal would likely have some appeal.

I could see something like this happening... we likely come out a little too awesome like you might flip Hunter and Collins add salary as needed.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Random trade idea... Some felt my Conley to Washington deal was not fair at all... so a take off of that deal...

Utah out - Mike Conley, NAW
Utah in - KCP and Terrence Ross, #56 pick

Orlando out - Ross
Orlando in - NAW and Rui

Washington out - KCP and Rui, #56
Washington in - Conley

Saves us some money. Gets us some wings... we pray both guys kill it in contract years. Worst case scenario we have cleared the cap for next offseason. If it all goes to hell we could regift KCP and Ross to another team at the deadline.

I could see us just keeping Rui. I think he is far more available than Deni. I just don't think he's a winning player... still a project. Orlando is still in development mode... Rui will pull in a bunch of fans to an empty arena. NAW is salary filler (again).

 

[Cptgrnlngs22]

I think this could work...

Utah Trades: Gobert
Utah Receives: Capella, Hunter, #7

Atlanta Trades: Capella, Collins, Hunter, #16
Atlanta Receives: Gobert, Barnes

Sacto Trades: Barnes, #7
Sacto Receives: Collins, #16

I still say take Sacramento out and replace Barnes with bogie.


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[Cptgrnlngs22]

Random trade idea... Some felt my Conley to Washington deal was not fair at all... so a take off of that deal...

Utah out - Mike Conley, NAW
Utah in - KCP and Terrence Ross, #56 pick

Orlando out - Ross
Orlando in - NAW and Rui

Washington out - KCP and Rui, #56
Washington in - Conley

Saves us some money. Gets us some wings... we pray both guys kill it in contract years. Worst case scenario we have cleared the cap for next offseason. If it all goes to hell we could regift KCP and Ross to another team at the deadline.

I could see us just keeping Rui. I think he is far more available than Deni. I just don't think he's a winning player... still a project. Orlando is still in development mode... Rui will pull in a bunch of fans to an empty arena. NAW is salary filler (again).

I’d keep Rui. He has potential.


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