What's the delusion exactly?The delusion here is absolutely insane.
That teams know how to negotiate effectively and Utah has absolutely blown their position with how obvious they have made their desire to please Donovan?
What's the delusion exactly?The delusion here is absolutely insane.
The point is that rival teams won't trade young unproven players for this god of a player y'all are making Rudy Gobert out to be.
Chicago doesn't want to trade Williams. Atlanta doesn't want to trade Hunter. Toronto doesn't want to trade OG.
Could you imagine the Lakers saying - "you know what NOLA, we really want AD, but we don't want to trade you Lonzo Ball. Sorry."
The delusion is that people think we have all of these amazing offers for Rudy but aren't trading him.What's the delusion exactly?
That teams know how to negotiate effectively and Utah has absolutely blown their position with how obvious they have made their desire to please Donovan?
The comparison still has value. AD actually wasn't under contract for very long so it was risky for LA to a certain degree.Dude… again AD was 26. Gobert is older and has a huge contract. That of course limits the type of deals we can do. Don’t be purposely obtuse.
Tell me another top 15 player that the Hawks, Raptors, or Bulls would be hesitant to include Hunter, OG, or Williams...Tell me what other players the Bulls would trade the package they’re likely offering for Gobert. Zero shot they’re not a top-25 player.
Chris Paul was literally traded for the 30th pick in the draft, Ty Jerome, Kelly Oubre and Ricky Rubio....The delusion is that people think we have all of these amazing offers for Rudy but aren't trading him.
What other top 15 player in the NBA would be put on the trade block but teams would be hesitant to move Patrick Williams or DeAndre Hunter?
The delusion is that people think we have all of these amazing offers for Rudy but aren't trading him.
What other top 15 player in the NBA would be put on the trade block but teams would be hesitant to move Patrick Williams or DeAndre Hunter?
Chris Paul was also viewed as washed with a terrible contract when he was traded from OKC to PHX.Chris Paul was literally traded for the 30th pick in the draft, Ty Jerome, Kelly Oubre and Ricky Rubio....
Do you have any other dumb questions?
Can Donovan play defense at the level of say... Jayson Tatum? He was considered a much better defender than Tatum when he entered the league.So essentially Donovan has to become the best player in the league lmao.
Or there’s that time when LoPo I think it was or UtahJazz32 showing a clip of the 7-2 longest player in the league getting beat by the 6-2 Brunson even though you see the effort but he’s just not quick enough to stay with him. But of course there’s a library of video of Mitchell getting beat on normal straight line drives where Mitchell is quick enough to stay on his man but just watches him go by putting up zero resistance. You just can’t make this **** up.The funny thing is that most of them are so dumb they will post clips of Gobert getting "owned" and they actually show the opposite.
If Rudy is a top 15 player that guarantees you 55 wins I'd assume teams would be dying to trade for him?Dude… I really don’t know what your deal is but you keep making **** up that nobody has said.
Why in the **** would we trade Gobert if we’re not getting what we want back for him?
So you're telling me narratives, false or true, can play a huge role in a player's trade value?Chris Paul was also viewed as washed with a terrible contract when he was traded from OKC to PHX.
The rumors were we wanted them to improve the offers... its pretty common to go shopping with guys you are about to acquire before pulling off a deal. So we hunt around with Vuc and White to expand the trade if we can or want to. These always come back down to the wire too... people acting like they never seen a trade deadline or draft night. Only the minor deals get done in the dead space. Deal time starts tonight/tomorrow.Where did I say godfather offers?
Vucevic/Williams/White/18 is likely on the table. We don’t want Vucevic or White though.
If Rudy is a top 15 player that guarantees you 55 wins I'd assume teams would be dying to trade for him?
Ben Simmons didn't even play after a horrific playoff showing and netted James Harden back.So you're telling me narratives, false or true, can play a huge role in a player's trade value?
So like, Utah making it abundantly clear they are trying to make Donovan nut at all times has maybe hurt Gobert's value?
I'm just confused as to why Chicago is hesitant to make the trade.I said he would make Chicago a 55-win team. They won 48 games without Lonzo and Caruso for half of the year. You think that is a unrealistic goal if they traded for Gobert?
Mitchell gets beat all the time. It happens. Overall, Rudy is definitely a great defensive player and much better than Donovan Mitchell.Or there’s that time when LoPo I think it was or UtahJazz32 showing a clip of the 7-2 longest player in the league getting beat by the 6-2 Brunson even though you see the effort but he’s just not quick enough to stay with him. But of course there’s a library of video of Mitchell getting beat on normal straight line drives where Mitchell is quick enough to stay on his man but just watches him go by putting up zero resistance. You just can’t make this **** up.