Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Elizah Huge]

If you were Ayton, wouldn't waiting for the Indy offer sheet be your first choice? What incentive does he have to cooperate in any sign & trade?

Who says Indiana is even offering him what he wants?

 

[nateboz]

If you were Ayton, wouldn't waiting for the Indy offer sheet be your first choice? What incentive does he have to cooperate in any sign & trade?

Phoenix has his rights. They can match any offer then send him off where they please. If he agrees to a sign and trade, he has a say to his new team.
He's a bad spot. Only a few teams would want him with his high contract price. His salary and potential new team is a big question mark now.

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[Ferguson_Mellochill]

If you were Ayton, wouldn't waiting for the Indy offer sheet be your first choice? What incentive does he have to cooperate in any sign & trade?

Suns could match the offer and he's back in PHX, though that becomes more complicated if the Suns are trying to trade for KD.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Brooklyn is going to want all the cream out of the Twinkie in a Jazz, Suns, Nets three way. They are going to want those Phoenix picks AND Bridges AND Mitchell. Screw 'em. Knicks will buckle, even if we need to let them experience life a bit with Brunsen as their "superstar." As bad as we feel like we would be fleecing them, they generally make worse decisions.

You know that stuff isn't real cream, right?

 

[idiot]

Who says Indiana is even offering him what he wants?

Nobody knows this, of course. But we also don't know whether any sign-and-trade option would give him anything better. It seems it's in his interest to try to get both options in play (by having the process drag out at least to the end of the moratorium).

 

[YoungJefe]

Both the players and the team have reached an ultimatum. They're both getting moved this offseason.

If they don’t get a package they love what do you think they do?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

If you were Ayton, wouldn't waiting for the Indy offer sheet be your first choice? What incentive does he have to cooperate in any sign & trade?

Well Phoenix can still match and then he’s either back in a tough situation or traded wherever they want to later. The Indy offer may also not be there. He isn’t guaranteed to get a max… so he will want to keep options open. If Indy does offer it he may just sign it and handle the consequences later. If he prefers Utah or somewhere else he may be patient to get what he prefers.

 

[idiot]

Phoenix has his rights. They can match any offer then send him off where they please. If he agrees to a sign and trade, he has a say to his new team.
He's a bad spot. Only a few teams would want him with his high contract price. His salary and potential new team is a big question mark now.

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I suspect his primary goal is getting paid. If it's with Phoenix, he'll find a way to cope. If it's with Sacramento or Indiana (for example), he'll be fine as long as it's the highest offer. Why would he prefer Utah? Why would it be in his interest to try to hurry the process along before an offer sheet can be formally given?

 

[YoungJefe]

Giving up Mitchell to acquire Simmons is the opposite of buying low.

In theory you’d be getting Ayton and heavy draft capital for Donovan. And then including other players for Simmons.

 

[YoungJefe]

Well Phoenix can still match and then he’s either back in a tough situation or traded wherever they want to later. The Indy offer may also not be there. He isn’t guaranteed to get a max… so he will want to keep options open. If Indy does offer it he may just sign it and handle the consequences later. If he prefers Utah or somewhere else he may be patient to get what he prefers.

IIRC once he signs an offer sheet elsewhere but basically eliminates the possibility they are able to trade him.

 

[idiot]

Suns could match the offer and he's back in PHX, though that becomes more complicated if the Suns are trying to trade for KD.

If that's what results, it's still the result that gives him the most money. He'll find a way to live with it.

 

[YoungJefe]

I dislike Simmons, but if he is getting dumped as part of a deal and we could get him for next to nothing or one of our vets contracts its a no brainer to pick him up. Worst case his salary sits here for a few years but thats fine. Best case he gets back to where he was or more.

I’m personally not a huge fan of Ben Simmons but starting a rebuild with two former #1 picks that are younger then 25 and have been big contributors for #1 seeds within the last 2 seasons + having heavy draft capital isn’t a terrible place to begin.