Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Will only amend this to say we got $25 in taco Bell gift certificates but Ryan also got a $10 bill in the deal. It was about money and getting the fast food option DA prefers... when in reality we could have just waited... or as you mentioned cashed out in front of the mcdonalds. It was beneath us though... so we didn't want to do that.

To be fair, Kelly Olynyk has been one of the better stretch 5's in the NBA season and I doubt anyone saw Bogey have a career year at age 33/34. KO has also made everyone on the team much better.

If Utah had no intent on extending Bogey (which I would get, he's going to be 34/35 and 36/37 getting paid 20 million a year, that's kind of a gamble, and he occupies the same spots on the court Lauri does (though I think it probably would have worked just fine tbh, but I get them wanting to keep those minutes freed up for Vanderbilt/Kessler/Simone)). Kelly Olynyk is still on a contract that's great for trades for the next 2 seasons. I think the KO/Bogey trade was solid on a lot of different levels, even though it still feels like an undersell given how good Bogey has been.

Also got to commend Ainge on seeing that KO was undervalued. Who knows if we actually trade him, but we have definitely raised his value significantly. There's a lot of team KO would be an absolute A+ fit for (hello Pelicans, you have a million first rounders. You need a stretch 5).

 

[Elizah Huge]

There was some cope about the trade when we started hot. Ultimately, that trade will have done nothing for us long or short term. We had $100 worth of McDonald’s gift certificates that expired in a month and traded them for $25 worth of Taco Bell gift certificates that expire in 6 weeks. We could have hung out outside McDonald’s and sold our gift certificates and at least collected $50 cash.

Will only amend this to say we got $25 in taco Bell gift certificates but Ryan also got a $10 bill in the deal. It was about money and getting the fast food option DA prefers... when in reality we could have just waited... or as you mentioned cashed out in front of the mcdonalds. It was beneath us though... so we didn't want to do that.

In Vando’s case we had $50 worth of McDonald’s gift cards and were offered $40 cash yet we declined because we thought it was worth $50 cash.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

To be fair, Kelly Olynyk has been one of the better stretch 5's in the NBA season and I doubt anyone saw Bogey have a career year at age 33/34. KO has also made everyone on the team much better.

If Utah had no intent on extending Bogey (which I would get, he's going to be 34/35 and 36/37 getting paid 20 million a year, that's kind of a gamble, and he occupies the same spots on the court Lauri does (though I think it probably would have worked just fine tbh, but I get them wanting to keep those minutes freed up for Vanderbilt/Kessler/Simone)). Kelly Olynyk is still on a contract that's great for trades for the next 2 seasons. I think the KO/Bogey trade was solid on a lot of different levels, even though it still feels like an undersell given how good Bogey has been.

Also got to commend Ainge on seeing that KO was undervalued. Who knows if we actually trade him, but we have definitely raised his value significantly. There's a lot of team KO would be an absolute A+ fit for (hello Pelicans, you have a million first rounders. You need a stretch 5).

And I am not a KO hater. I didn't like the trade because it addressed a position of need and stretch 5s are actually a cheat code for mediocre teams to win more than they should. I would have preferred offloading talent for picks to ensure we could be a bottom 7-8 team without too much nonsense.

I would have tried to squeeze Detroit and LA if those were the guys you wanted. In a vacuum even with an extension... Bogey is a better asset than KO... even if KO was "undervalued".

The money was a good part of the "value" in the deal and none of us really get the benefit there... only Ryan really.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Something like this would be intersting.

A future pick in 2024 (Ainge said this draft was better than 2023 in an interview before the season started) and a 2nd rounder from Chicago. You get off Rudy's Gay contract. Temple can be waived at the end of the season as his contract next year is non-guaranteed.

Not a Graham fan at all, but dont think his contract is bad enough to warrant New Orleans giving up an additional first.

You could also just do Temple/Hayes/1st for KO straight up if you didnt want to offload Gay/take on Graham (probably preferable tbh)

 

[Elizah Huge]

And I am not a KO hater. I didn't like the trade because it addressed a position of need and stretch 5s are actually a cheat code for mediocre teams to win more than they should. I would have preferred offloading talent for picks to ensure we could be a bottom 7-8 team without too much nonsense.

I would have tried to squeeze Detroit and LA if those were the guys you wanted. In a vacuum even with an extension... Bogey is a better asset than KO... even if KO was "undervalued".

The money was a good part of the "value" in the deal and none of us really get the benefit there... only Ryan really.

Yeah, KO actually has been elite offensively this year for us. It’s more so of the fact that we settled when we could have squeezed a little more out of both deals.

 

[homeytennis]

Garrett Temple is 105 years old. Someone on here really likes him.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also, we are kind of low on JV as a forum, but we are probably underrating him a bit.

He's having a career year while being asked to do a bit too much on both ends. His On/Off defensive numbers are heavily skewed because he plays against starters and never plays with the most impactful defensive player (Walker Kessler).

 

[fishonjazz]

Speaking of Caruso… if Bulls wanted to tear things down I’d be happy to take the Bald Eagle off their hands.

Bald eagle lol.

Speaking of eagles, I was fishing last monday and while i was walking along the river i looked up and saw a golden eagle diving from about 150 feet up and simultaneously heard a turkey screaming in terror so I hurriedly got my phone out and started recording.
Filmed the Eagle in pursuit of the turkey. They flew across the river and the eagle was closing in and the turkey did the smart thing and just crashed straight into some bushes forcing the eagle to pull up.
I saw the turkey come out of the bushes right next to me.

Then i looked across the river and saw a huge flock (probably 20-30) of terrified turkeys hiding in some bushes. So i decided to try to flush the turkeys out and see if the eagle was still around to attack.

I walked to the edge of the river and started shaking some bushes and got the turkeys to fly. All 20-30 of em. Sure enough the eagle made another appearance but this time didnt have the speed that it had earlier from the dive from above and it had no chance at actually getting any. Pretty cool to see though.

Caught a couple fish that day. A nice sized brown and tiny cutthroat. It snowed the entire time i was there (about 5 hours)
I had a blast


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[jom2003]

Yeah, KO actually has been elite offensively this year for us. It’s more so of the fact that we settled when we could have squeezed a little more out of both deals.

Second round picks, for example. We only have 2 of those for the next 7 seasons(thanks DL). No reason not to acquire some 2nd round picks from the Bogey trade or Beverley trade.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also feel like maybe you can do a deal with Memphis.

They need some shooting. Basically middle of the pack in attempts and percentages. Danny Green/1st rounder + one of their minimum salaries for Beasley works.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Also feel like maybe you can do a deal with Memphis.

They need some shooting. Basically middle of the pack in attempts and percentages. Danny Green/1st rounder + one of their minimum salaries for Beasley works.

Toronto really needs some shooting too. Have all their picks. They are at a pivot point imo.

There should be some buyers if we are willing to sell.

 

[Park Bites]

Something like this would be intersting.

A future pick in 2024 (Ainge said this draft was better than 2023 in an interview before the season started) and a 2nd rounder from Chicago. You get off Rudy's Gay contract. Temple can be waived at the end of the season as his contract next year is non-guaranteed.

Not a Graham fan at all, but dont think his contract is bad enough to warrant New Orleans giving up an additional first.

You could also just do Temple/Hayes/1st for KO straight up if you didnt want to offload Gay/take on Graham (probably preferable tbh)View attachment 13526

I think If you are offloading KO you would need to get Jaxson Hayes back in the trade.