Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Elizah Huge]

Issue is the pick they owe to Orlando is only top 4 protected. Kinda a death sentence for the GM if they blow it up then give a pick in the 5-9 range to the Magic.

Well, if they could somehow get the worst record it would almost certainly guarantee them a top-4 pick with the nightmare scenario being falling to 5 which is the lowest they could go.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Well, if they could somehow get the worst record it would almost certainly guarantee them a top-4 pick with the nightmare scenario being falling to 5 which is the lowest they could go.

If they get in the bottom 4 its basically a 50/50 shot that they keep the pick. It would be hard for them to get there unless they tear it down in the next few weeks. I think they have to wait a month to trade Zach but could just bench him as he is constantly hurt.

Its a pretty ****** spot for them... I bet they just push forward. But they are definitely a team to watch.

 

[Elizah Huge]

If they get in the bottom 4 its basically a 50/50 shot that they keep the pick. It would be hard for them to get there unless they tear it down in the next few weeks. I think they have to wait a month to trade Zach but could just bench him as he is constantly hurt.

Its a pretty ****** spot for them... I bet they just push forward. But they are definitely a team to watch.

I just looked actually you have a 47.9% chance of landing the 5th pick if you get the worst record in the league. That’s ****ing wild.

 

[fishonjazz]

I was saying their best course of action is to blow it up.

I think getting vucevic was a big mistake. I kind of feel like your center needs to be able to defend the paint. Even in todays game that still carries a lot of importance. I mean if your 4 is a great defender or something then whatever. Plus the warriors of a few years ago didn't need their center to defender the paint but I think they were the ultimate outlier.

 

[fishonjazz]

I just looked actually you have a 47.9% chance of landing the 5th pick if you get the worst record in the league. That’s ****ing wild.

Wow. I would have guessed like a 10% chance or something. That would suck to bad lol. Makes me happier that we aren't tanking hard. Good move by the nba to discourage hard core tanking I guess.

 

[LogGrad98]

Wow. I would have guessed like a 10% chance or something. That would suck to bad lol. Makes me happier that we aren't tanking hard. Good move by the nba to discourage hard core tanking I guess.

Well once the top 4 are handed out by lottery, then they go in record order. So if the worst team misses out on 1-4, they get 5 automatically. Their chances of landing in the top 5 are solid. I am actually surprised their chances of getting #5 isn't 100%, of course factoring in their odds of getting any of the top 4 then getting exactly pick 5 that 47% or whatever makes sense. They have a 100% chance of being in the top 5, let's put it that way.

 

[LogGrad98]

By the lottery odds tables it looks like records 6 and 7 have the crappiest odds of staying at least within their record, with better odds of finishing at 7 and 8 respectively. After that, from 8 to 14 their best odds are exactly according to their record. Interesting.

 

[Eddie Zero]

Wow. I would have guessed like a 10% chance or something. That would suck to bad lol. Makes me happier that we aren't tanking hard. Good move by the nba to discourage hard core tanking I guess.

Yeah this is why I see no point in being bad on purpose. There are plenty of better avenues to go, like cashing in on all stars who could not contend and fast forwarding a rebuild into a one seaosn retool, like Danny has done here.
I actually like out chances to win a top 4 pick in the case we slip some late season, and are in the 5-9 range more than staying in the top 4 if they tank. Karma has been king if you believe in it, and thge idea the fix is in,wouldn't be that far fetched as it seems, if the Jazz play hard all season but lose a play in, then win the entire ****ing lottery lol

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Well once the top 4 are handed out by lottery, then they go in record order. So if the worst team misses out on 1-4, they get 5 automatically. Their chances of landing in the top 5 are solid. I am actually surprised their chances of getting #5 isn't 100%, of course factoring in their odds of getting any of the top 4 then getting exactly pick 5 that 47% or whatever makes sense. They have a 100% chance of being in the top 5, let's put it that way.

But in Chicago's case anything outside the top 4 would go to Orlando... so a pretty tough bet to base selling off your stars and such.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah this is why I see no point in being bad on purpose. There are plenty of better avenues to go, like cashing in on all stars who could not contend and fast forwarding a rebuild into a one seaosn retool, like Danny has done here.
I actually like out chances to win a top 4 pick in the case we slip some late season, and are in the 5-9 range more than staying in the top 4 if they tank. Karma has been king if you believe in it, and thge idea the fix is in,wouldn't be that far fetched as it seems, if the Jazz play hard all season but lose a play in, then win the entire ****ing lottery lol

Would take waaaaaaayyyyy more than just a slip late in the season to get anywhere near 5-8 range... maybe 9... but likely 10/11 is the best/worst we do unless we have horrible injury luck or make some big lose now trades.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

They should make a rule that you can't have the #1 pick for two drafts after you have already had it. Or that your odds of jumping into the top 4 are cut in half for two years after you get the #1 pick.

 

[Eddie Zero]

Would take waaaaaaayyyyy more than just a slip late in the season to get anywhere near 5-8 range... maybe 9... but likely 10/11 is the best/worst we do unless we have horrible injury luck or make some big lose now trades.

Ok but I can still see it happen, if they do become sellers of key players ,and the new blood returning are not ready to win now, or worse butt heads with Hardy or other players left on the roster.
Overall you are right its not likely but the League is so close other than the bottom dwellers. Their own pick could be 9 or 19 based on 6 wins or losses.