Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Jingled]

Are you aware that we all are sinners and we all have opportunities to see the error of our ways and change and improve?

Thats's exactly the point I was trying to make. Eddie zero keeps talking about what a bad guy John Collins is, calling him a headcase and cheater. I was simply pointing out that we already have someone on our roster that has made mistakes and been in trouble. Everyone deserves a second chance.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

I'm coming around on this trade. Collins is a super athletic guy, maybe he can hook Lauri up with his pharmacist.

Trainer.

I meant TRAINER.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Getting Collins for Beasley/Vando is buying a very talented player for an extremely low cost in my opinion.

if that's the deal, yep, if you're the jazz you pull the trigger. i'm a big vando fan - couldn't give two ***** about beasley - but collins would be clearly the best player in that deal and is still just 25. he and lauri could absolutely make it work.

prior to this season collins' production was similar to that of lauri before this season - maybe even a tad better. maybe he has a similar type jump in this offense and with this coaching staff.

 

[sip]

I have ZERO doubt Collins and Lauri could both get all the touches they want/need. There are teams all over the league with multiple high usage dudes that seem to not have issues there.

If this happens and they get their shots within the system, this could be a huge win for the Jazz IMO.

There is not a single team with 2 high usage front court players though.

 

[sip]

if that's the deal, yep, if you're the jazz you pull the trigger. i'm a big vando fan - couldn't give two ***** about beasley - but collins would be clearly the best player in that deal and is still just 25. he and lauri could absolutely make it work.

prior to this season collins' production was similar to that of lauri before this season - maybe even a tad better. maybe he has a similar type jump in this offense and with this coaching staff.

In another situation where he is the primary big I think could certainly have a Lauri type jump. On our team with a healthy Lauri I think he probably would top out around 17 and 10 a game. I also think you may see Lauri come down to around 20 though as well.

 

[sip]

Here is another thing to consider. Does is makes more sense to try move Beasley and Vanderbilt for future 1sts or young players as well as expirings to create more capspace in the offseason and target Kuzma? Obviously there is no guarantee in getting Kuzma like there is with trading for Collins but worst case scenario we still come away with some assets and best case scenario we get the assets and Kuzma. I think out of all the players Kuzma is someone that would strongly consider signing here with him already being familiar with the community.

 

[Elizah Huge]

There is not a single team with 2 high usage front court players though.

Lauri is 73rd in usage rate this season in the entire league. He’s not high usage.

 

[Park Bites]

Are you sure about that?

i thought i was wrong once but i was mistaken

 

[sip]

Lauri is 73rd in usage rate this season in the entire league. He’s not high usage.

He is clearly the focal point of our offense. It also seems like his usage rate has picked up considerably over the last month which is the level I would like to see. Earlier in the year I was frustrated that he wasn't getting enough touches. Is there any way to look at his usage rate on a month by month basis?

 

[Elizah Huge]

He is clearly the focal point of our offense. It also seems like his usage rate has picked up considerably over the last month which is the level I would like to see. Earlier in the year I was frustrated that he wasn't getting enough touches. Is there any way to look at his usage rate on a month by month basis?

You can be the focal point of an offense and still not have a high usage rate.

Here is his usage rate by month:

October - 25.3
November - 23.3
December - 24.9
January - 29.6

It has gone up quite a bit this month but we are only 5 games in.

 

[HeatCheck]

if that's the deal, yep, if you're the jazz you pull the trigger. i'm a big vando fan - couldn't give two ***** about beasley - but collins would be clearly the best player in that deal and is still just 25. he and lauri could absolutely make it work.

prior to this season collins' production was similar to that of lauri before this season - maybe even a tad better. maybe he has a similar type jump in this offense and with this coaching staff.

I'm starting to come around on this too.

First off I'm really getting tired of Beasley. He has the potential to be more than Duncan Robinson but all this guy wants to do most nights is chuck up 3's. I can usually tell within the first few minutes if he's going to be useful or have one of his 2/11 shooting nights. If he is gone it does open up more shot opportunities for someone like Collins.

Vando is tougher since I really do like him. He'd be a near perfect fit next to a more offensive center such as Ayton or Turner. I don't see him as a fit next to Kessler and it's obvious Hardy goes out of his way not to play them together. When Kessler starts it seems Hardy likes to have a shooter such as Beasley in the starting lineup. Collins' size and athleticism/rebounding is potentially going to bring so much more to the table than starting Beasley, especially if Collins can get back anywhere near his career shooting %'s. I believe we already got the best out of KO and Kessler starting at the 5 is going to be the norm as we move forward.

 

[Eddie Zero]

He is clearly the focal point of our offense. It also seems like his usage rate has picked up considerably over the last month which is the level I would like to see. Earlier in the year I was frustrated that he wasn't getting enough touches. Is there any way to look at his usage rate on a month by month basis?

lol why would Marky's biggest homer ever want to deal in recent play smh
If the Jazz front office,really feels it is beneficial for this roster to go after John Collins, I maintain the position that it will be only for the purposes
of two different things. 1 is to go full tank to close the season, by messing up the locker room, and trading away one of our best shooters in the process. 2 is to sell
the fanbase on the win now idea of Collins as a 1st option and watch the enitre city burn smh