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I would definitely prefer Grant to John Collins, I also think he would fit better next to Lauri and Kessler.

I think most if not all of us would as well. The problem is we aren’t going to get Grant and a first for Beasley/Vando like we would with Collins. We are likely adding draft capital to the deal instead of getting it back.

Is Grant minus a first better than Collins plus a first? Especially since Collins is signed for multiple years and Grant is a UFA coming up. I don’t think so personally. If Grant signs an extension it’s a completely different story of course.
 
If it is not John Collins...there's DLO out there and...there's Kuz... Hmmm, Kuzma? That would be kind of fun.

And oh and OG, well yeah him too is possible.

The entire reason the Wizards traded Rui was to sign Kuzma to a long-term extension.
 
To be fair to Mike... I like his schtick and its fun. I actually do think he has some connection but that the info that comes through is likely less bankable than FTX.

I can add to what he heard and give you one more breadcrumb... Its a player who plays for a team in Canada and some call him the Original Gangsta. I can't give any more info than that okay!!!
Original Gangsta = "OG" = Octavius Rudy Gobert
 
I think most if not all of us would as well. The problem is we aren’t going to get Grant and a first for Beasley/Vando like we would with Collins. We are likely adding draft capital to the deal instead of getting it back.

Is Grant minus a first better than Collins plus a first? Especially since Collins is signed for multiple years and Grant is a UFA coming up. I don’t think so personally. If Grant signs an extension it’s a completely different story of course.

I think it all depends on the extension. If he's willing to sign an extension here then I would prefer to do that deal over the Collins deal, even if it costs us a first. If he won't sign the extension then it's definitely not a deal worth doing.
 
I think it all depends on the extension. If he's willing to sign an extension here then I would prefer to do that deal over the Collins deal, even if it costs us a first. If he won't sign the extension then it's definitely not a deal worth doing.
Grant would accelerate our timeline though... and he is not a #1 so we would still be short one elite point guard and the clock would be ticking louder.
 
I think most if not all of us would as well. The problem is we aren’t going to get Grant and a first for Beasley/Vando like we would with Collins. We are likely adding draft capital to the deal instead of getting it back.

Is Grant minus a first better than Collins plus a first? Especially since Collins is signed for multiple years and Grant is a UFA coming up. I don’t think so personally. If Grant signs an extension it’s a completely different story of course.
Please explain why you seem so certain that the Hawks are willing to give us Collins and a first for Beasley and Vando. To me, this looks like smoke the Jazz are putting out to try to bring Collins's price down. I can't see the Hawks as actually being on board.
 
I think most if not all of us would as well. The problem is we aren’t going to get Grant and a first for Beasley/Vando like we would with Collins. We are likely adding draft capital to the deal instead of getting it back.

Is Grant minus a first better than Collins plus a first? Especially since Collins is signed for multiple years and Grant is a UFA coming up. I don’t think so personally. If Grant signs an extension it’s a completely different story of course.
I'm not sure... if the Collins plus a first deal is on the table that's the one I'd prefer.

Grant is the player I'd prefer though. I think the difference is we need Collins to do things that Grant is better at. Shooting, defending, etc. For Portland... there is a case for selling him off before FA if things have gotten bad... poor performance and Dame deciding he wants to be moved... or if they have decided they are moving on from Dame. If he's willing to sign the extension I'd consider putting in the Nets pick... but I doubt we can get him to sign. I don't think he'd be a fan of coming to Utah and should have a solid market in the 25M range.

Honestly if Portland things he's a flight risk... Beasley and Vando for Grant is actually a pretty solid move as it gives them the option of having both guys next year and not risking losing Grant for nothing.

To be clear... I'm guessing on Grant's availability. I think Hart might be more gettable... was just thinking of players in the nebulous player type that @bigmike suggested.
 
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