Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[fishonjazz]

Minnesota had 1 player in trade rumors though. It's not like their whole team was on the block like Utah. I would say it's a pretty different thing. Also the whole aspect of the FO making a trade to make your team worse on purpose is kind of demotivating.

True.
I would agree that clarkson makes us better than no clarkson. But clarkson with the team that is left now might not be much better. Losing his teammates might have a lasting effect on him and his play.

I mean i saw this post from you in the gamethread

Like the team just knows it's over. The belief they had in themselves, now it feels gone.

I tend to agree with you. Clarkson might not be the same clarkson he was prior to today. Might be the perfect tank commander.

Lauri is about the only thing slowing the tank now.


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[Handlogten's Heros]

Just a weird post that i dont understand. I mean rudy trade moght have been the greatest trade of all time. Donovan trade moght have been the second best trade in jazz history.
Then you have todays trade. Just weird to use them trades to help describe this trades value.


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Some folks that always complain complained about the Rudy trade… some of those same folks are complaining here… even though what we sold was the leftovers of the trade they thought we didn’t get enough for.


There is no comparison at all my man… I agree. We sold off spare parts and a guy whose contract was viewed as a slight negative… we got a **** ton of space and a pick that will land somewhere between 5-34.

 

[kcgar]

Some folks that always complain complained about the Rudy trade… some of those same folks are complaining here… even though what we sold was the leftovers of the trade they thought we didn’t get enough for.


There is no comparison at all my man… I agree. We sold off spare parts and a guy whose contract was viewed as a slight negative… we got a **** ton of space and a pick that will land somewhere between 5-34.

You don’t need to keep explaining. He just doesn’t get it.

 

[Pinhead]

You don’t need to keep explaining. He just doesn’t get it.

We were sellers in a sellers market… and there is a chance we gave away all those players (who all had some level of value) for the right to give away more second round picks than what we secured.

 

[fishonjazz]

You don’t need to keep explaining. He just doesn’t get it.

I get it. He is basically saying this trade is fine because we did so good on the gobert trade.

I simply disagree with that statement.

Its like saying ya the trade sucks but at least we only lost guys we should have never been able to acquire in the first place in this sucky trade.


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[Handlogten's Heros]

You don’t, but if I had to rank every pick we got from any trade the Lakers pick is the most valuable and I think that if you tried to make a trade right now other teams would see it the same way.

I disagree strongly… they unprotected picks have the most value. Listened to Russillo the other day talking about how a GM evaluates trades and he said the biggest rule he followed was “what am I guaranteed in this deal”. Knowing you will for sure get a first rounder and knowing the uncertainty provides some upside would be really valuable. The floor on the Lakers pick has some uncertainty and many GMs seem to be afraid of their shadows. I’d rank all the unprotected picks above the Lakers pick. I still think it’s a solid asset though.

 

[kcgar]

We were sellers in a sellers market… and there is a chance we gave away all those players (who all had some level of value) for the right to give away more second round picks than what we secured.

We didn’t give them away. Seconds mean absolutely nothing to me. The greatest thing we got from this trade was the chance to get into the 6-8 spot in the draft. It is strictly a win for me. None of the other stuff matters.

 

[jom2003]

I get it. He is basically saying this trade is fine because we did so good on the gobert trade.

I simply disagree with that statement.

Its like saying ya the trade sucks but at least we only lost guys we should have never been able to acquire in the first place in this sucky trade.


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Two independent events. Us doing a good job on the Gobert trade has zero thing to do with how we are doing on this Lakers trade.

 

[kcgar]

Its like saying ya the trade sucks but at least we only lost guys we should have never been able to acquire in the first place in this sucky trade.


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But he (and I) don’t think the trade sucks though. In the grand scheme of things we really didn’t lose

 

[default]

So anyone else have a feeling that this is the big move, but not the only move at the deadline for the Jazz?

 

[FrenchJazzFa]

Just had a look at Minny forum. They seems quite happy to get rid of Dlo and to get Mike.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

We were sellers in a sellers market… and there is a chance we gave away all those players (who all had some level of value) for the right to give away more second round picks than what we secured.

Let’s see how the rest of sellers market plays out. I am not sure there was another deal out there that met DAs goals better than the one we did.