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Trey Lyles: Bound for Stardom?

zyzz said:
Yeah I can't believe people bit on his pump fakes every time 25 feet from the basket lol
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They still bite on Booker's though... most of these guys don't check the stats before they close out. They read scouting reports, but in the heat of the moment they are likely thinking that's my guy and he's threatening to score on me. It's just like the DWade pump fake. He gets fouled on it all the time and guys know he isn't a great shooter... has been getting the call for years now.

His handle and passing will make his face up game good with or without a great jumper. If he becomes garbage shooter that will change, but I think he is currently good enough to pose a threat.

People have mentioned he's 19 and needs to get stronger... this is true, but he will get better just by being more comfortable out there. He's probably not comfortable really going into somebody's body at this point. Brandon Bass is a grown *** man and he will go through many guys.

I'm encouraged by what I've seen the GTime comp is about right. Good at many things... master or none, but makes everything else around him work better. I don't know if he has Gordon's drive or work ethic though.
 
He needs to work on strength and toughness in a big way, but there's real upside. He gets in the lane and gets over the rim quite easily, and he's really just a kid. The thing that already stands out about him to me is his court awareness, IQ and decision making. He makes reads and makes the right play at game speed. The ball doesn't stop. Then he's got the body control to make a play and get his defender out of position. He has some of the same 'intangibles' that Gordon Hayward has, and that gives him a lot to build on. He also has the ability to pull up from 10 feet and hit a running floater, which is a skill move for a guy that size.

Yeah, he needs to stop throwing the same fake-then-drive move, which will stop working when teams scout him, but he's got a nice face-up game developing in the mold of a Carlos Boozer. Plus, compared to Boozer, Lyles has more length, better body control, and he plays defense. He could become a 20/10 player or something awfully close to it within a few years, if he gets featured in the offense.

He's not the first versatile PF with size though. Locke is exaggerating a bit there. I mean, KG, Bosh and now Blake Griffin all have pretty complete games with some shooting range.
 
I loved him before the draft when everyone was on full hate mode with Lyles. I had no idea who he was then two weeks before the draft I did some scouting. What made me like him was that he played sf at Kentucky guarding smaller guys on the perimeter and was a natural ball handler and a fluid athlete. Felt then he could be a matchup nightmare no matter who guards him. U can ply small ball without going small and he has potential to neutralize opponents small ball lineups. Our lineup options were already going to be nightmareish for teens to defend now add a guy that can adapt to any lineup. Wow!!

This is what made me like him, and now he's showing to be skilled in all these attributes.

Bottom line... Lyles is going to be good. People are harping on his defense, strength, and shot. Relax. Dude is 19. He has a great build, strength is guaranteed. The shot will be at least respectable. He may never be a wiz defensively, but his time as a sf at Kentucky, guarding on the perimeter will make him a useful defender none the less at the next level. As a 19 yr old he just needs time.
 
He'll be a serviceable to good player, needs some serious core strength though Brandon bass had his way with him.
 
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