Trouble outside

[Revolution 9]

Carroll is a fantastic piece to have and I hope the Jazz sign him for the next 2-3 years. However Carroll was never the answer for the starting SF problem. I also think a PG rotation of Mo/Burks/Tinsley and a SG rotation of Hayward/Burks is better than anything we have going on at SF.

I think either a PG or a SF will greatly help the Jazz but I think we are weaker at SF.

Time to move Burks to the starting 2 or Hayward. It's either Foye or Carroll then right?

 

[Getting Traded]

I dont know the answer to what I'm about to say so dont kill me guys. Ok. Marvin has been sucking butt on offense for awhile, but was he still playing solid D? Is he keeping his man in front of him, not getting beat back door? Is he playing starter quality D? I dont know if he is or not, does anyone have anything to back either position up?

Marvin does not have what it takes ... no drive / motor, lazy passes, misses easy shots ... never applies the intense pressure D on the ball that Carroll does.

 

[Hartsock]

Marvin does not have what it takes ... no drive / motor, lazy passes, misses easy shots ... never applies the intense pressure D on the ball that Carroll does.

He is better defensively than Carrol, he just is. Not flashy but for the most part he keeps his man from doing whatever he wants. Carrol gets beat a lottttt, but he gets a lot of deflections and steals so I guess it might even out. I would rather have a solid defender than a flashy one. As for offense Marvin has been beyond terrible, Carrol has been solid. So overall I'd go with Carrol, unless we are playing a team with a great 3.

 

[Getting Traded]

I would debate that Marvin is better on D. Marvin stays in front of his man better because he doesn't put as much on the ball pressure. Carroll gets right up there on his man, which is why he creates so many turnovers. Marvin does have the ability and length to be a good defender but he lacks the intensity that Carroll brings. Do you ever recall Marvin putting full court pressure on his man?

Marvin's overall problem is lack of intensity and focus, and why he hasn't and probably never will live up to his potential. I had a friend whose son was like that -- 6-6, could jump through the ceiling, could put his elbows over the rim. Got a basketball scholarship and quit the team freshman year. He just didn't have the drive despite all that ability. You need both in the NBA. A little ability and a lot of drive will go further than a lot of ability and little drive in pro sports. Think of Pete Rose; he's a good example of the former. And it might said to apply in most professions as well.

 

[Hartsock]

I would debate that Marvin is better. Marvin stays in front of his man better because he doesn't put as much on the ball pressure. Carroll gets right up there on his man, which is why he creates so many turnovers. Marvin does have the ability and length to be a good defender but he lacks the intensity that Carroll brings. Do you ever recall Marvin putting full court pressure on his man?

Does putting full court pressure mean you are a good defender? Last time I checked you usually didn't score from the other end of the court.

 

[Stoked]

Time to move Burks to the starting 2 or Hayward. It's either Foye or Carroll then right?

I'd say burks as the starting 2 as Hayward seems to excell as the 6th man. Carroll over Foye. Foye hits 3s and that's it.

 

[Weezur]

I would debate that Marvin is better on D. Marvin stays in front of his man better because he doesn't put as much on the ball pressure. Carroll gets right up there on his man, which is why he creates so many turnovers. Marvin does have the ability and length to be a good defender but he lacks the intensity that Carroll brings. Do you ever recall Marvin putting full court pressure on his man?

Marvin's overall problem is lack of intensity and focus, and why he hasn't and probably never will live up to his potential. I had a friend whose son was like that -- 6-6, could jump through the ceiling, could put his elbows over the rim. Got a basketball scholarship and quit the team freshman year. He just didn't have the drive despite all that ability. You need both in the NBA. A little ability and a lot of drive will go further than a lot of ability and little drive in pro sports. Think of Pete Rose; he's a good example of the former. And it might said to apply in most professions as well.

To Marvin's credit, it's not like he doesn't work hard. There's always accounts of him in this season that he's the guy first on the court or the one eating healthy. I think confidence is a big issue with Marvin. He has all the intangibles except the drive and confidence.

 

[QuinSnydersHair]

Generally speaking, a good pg will make Favors and our other guys on the floor much better in so many different ways. Unless he's Lebron, a sf won't.