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JazzFever said:
Don’t believe its ever been tested, but mostly because no one thinks that would be allowed. Pardoned means pardoned.
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It has been tested to a point, if you read the article posted there. But I could see Donald attempting it against Biden.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Raises the question, can a new president rescind or reverse a pardon from a previous president?
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If the pardon has been delivered, no.

The issues the UK blog brought up about sovereigns not having the power to bind other sovereigns is irrelevant to the United States as our sovereign is the US Constitution, and the US President is an officer.

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The President as Officer Not Sovereign | Harvard Law Review

The authors of Faithful Execution and Article II132 Harv. L. Rev. 2111 (2019). adduce a wealth of historical evidence to make the provocative and convincing argument that the language of
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Douchebag K said:
Orange man wouldn't have needed to The trial was over and sentencing was all that was left. Joe is just trying to make sure his own corruption doesn't come back to bite him. They're all the same
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To be honest I don't think Biden is at all corrupt, in the sense of being motivated by financial gain. I do think he has engaged in various cover ups for his son Hunter who i reckon is most likely a *****erg of unimaginable proportions and likely can't go a month without doing something remarkably stupid. A life of privilege combined with a fair slice of feeling inadequate when compared to his dead brother, i bet the bloke is a real treat. I mean screwing his dead brothers widow is like next level ****ed. Biden using his position to cover for his son while being ethically questionable as a public official is a fairly standard action of a father. Does it make it right? Probably not
 
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LogGrad98 said:
Raises the question, can a new president rescind or reverse a pardon from a previous president? Let's say the way this is worded basically every single crime he did or may have committed (damn near anything he thought about committing, ****'in hell), but then 6 months from now it surfaces that he killed someone, and evidence is available, during this period for which he was pardoned, could the new president rescind that pardon? Or could he just outright say "nah, **** that ****, take that pardon back"?


Ok ok, I googled. One of the top results was this, strangely seemingly from a UK blog, but has relevant info. Looks like it would eventually end up in the Supreme Court to make this decision, as presidential pardons have been revoked in the past, but not delivered, so not officially completed, whatever that action looks like. But in the case of a completed pardon, it is possible for the new president to revoke it, and it would be appealed and likely end up at the Supreme Court. Would the SC support Donald Trump in such an action? Hmm.

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Can a presidential pardon be revoked?

11th January 2021 As we enter the last ten days of this presidential term one of the matters being widely discussed is the extent and nature of presidential pardons generally, and the possibility o…
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Biden can pardon all he wants, Hunter will be behind bars for a new crime within 24 months.
 
str8line said:
And the American electorate bored as **** and wanting more Trump show to provide them with entertainment and grievance is the reason we will have a dictator soon. **** the bored American electorate that can’t handle the peace and prosperity of the 21st century.
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Fixed for you.
 
Rubashov said:
To be honest I don't think Biden is at all corrupt, in the sense of being motivated by financial gain. I do think he has engaged in various cover ups for his son Hunter who i reckon is most likely a *****erg of unimaginable proportions and likely can't go a month without doing something remarkably stupid. A life of privilege combined with a fair slice of feeling inadequate when compared to his dead brother, i bet the bloke is a real treat. I mean screwing his dead brothers widow is like next level ****ed. Biden using his position to cover for his son while being ethically questionable as a public official is a fairly standard action of a father. Does it make it right? Probably not
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eh i'm a lot more dubious when it comes to his rellies collecting money from various parts of the world for ?? probably leveraging the family name. Whether Joe knew about it much or not we'll prob never know You're right about Hunter tho, piece of work for sure
 
Douchebag K said:
eh i'm a lot more dubious when it comes to his rellies collecting money from various parts of the world for ?? probably leveraging the family name. Whether Joe knew about it much or not we'll prob never know You're right about Hunter tho, piece of work for sure
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I just find it unlikely. Biden could have retired any time in the last 20 years and made tens of millions a year sitting on boards of fortune 500 and defence contractors and never worked another day in his life. People like him aren't driven by money, they're driven by power and ego, maybe even a sense of duty? (He was pretty tight with John McCain) Now did his drug addicted son leverage the family name OS to earn a quid? Almost certainly, but then again he's been leveraging his family name since he was a kid, he supposedly says in his book he's been a drug addict since his teenage years, the tonnage of skeletons in the boneyard would be huge.
 
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