Trump Dictatorship and All Things Politics

[Rubashov]

The supreme Court made this clear, it's called the "Brown Face Doctrine". If you have a brown face they have permission, from the supreme court no less, to detain and deport you without due process.

Yep, things are going well over there aren't they?

 

[fishonjazz]

Yep, things are going well over there aren't they?

Who would have thought it would be a **** show to elect trump? Again. ****ing idiots

 

[Red]

I agree. You had opined in a previous comment, that we were at an inflection point. I tend to agree. Trump and MAGA are an overwhelmingly negative movement, focused on anger, and the application of anger toward “the other”, undocumented humans, and towards anyone who disagrees or gets in the way. On the street, innocent citizens exercising their rights become “domestic terrorists”. If they are citizens, who simply voice disagreement with Trump, they become “the enemy within”.

I’ve always been of the opinion that highly negative movements really cannot be maintained in the long run. Executing citizens and identifying them as terrorists is that bridge too far. Impossible to maintain such a stance! It can’t be done, IMHO. Sooner or later, these populists eruptions of hatred and anger run their course. I might sound pie eyed, Putin managed to do in Russia what his disciple Donald Trump is attempting to do in the United States. It’s lasted decades there, and in other authoritarian regimes. And I guess we can know now what it’s like to be a dissident on the streets of Moscow. But not forever. I don’t believe it will work here, as hard as Trump is trying. Our democratic traditions will win out, IMHO. Just don’t yet know how it will all play out, or how much uglier and tumultuous it will get. But I do think we are at a turning point.

 

[LogGrad98]

Who would have thought it would be a **** show to elect trump? Again. ****ing idiots

Don't you know that reigning in the uncontrolled abortions in this country is worth literally giving up everything the country represents and its entire history? That is LITERALLY ALL THAT MATTERS. Yeah, but at least he is getting rid of the abortions. But getting rid of the brown people is just a bonus.

 

[LogGrad98]

I agree. You had opined in a previous comment, that we were at an inflection point. I tend to agree. Trump and MAGA are an overwhelmingly negative movement, focused on anger, and the application of anger toward “the other”, undocumented humans, and towards anyone who disagrees or gets in the way. On the street, innocent citizens exerciseing their rights become “domestic terrorists”. If they are citizens, who simply voice disagreement with Trump, they become “the enemy within”.

I’ve always been of the opinion that highly negative movements really cannot be maintained in the long run. Executing citizens and identifying them as terrorists is that bridge too far. Impossible to maintain such a stance! It can’t be done, IMHO. Sooner or later, these populists eruptions of hatred and anger run their course. I might sound pie eyed, Putin managed to do in Russia what his disciple Donald Trump is attempting to do in the United States. It’s lasted decades there, and in other authoritarian regimes. And I guess we can know now what it’s like to be a dissident on the streets of Moscow. But not forever. I don’t believe it will work here, as hard as Trump is trying. Our democratic traditions will win out, IMHO. Just don’t yet know how it will all play out, or how much uglier and tumultuous it will get. But I do think we are at a turning point.

One of the huge differences is that Putin had control of the oligarchs and used them to help bring the people under his boot. In the US right now, the oligarchs have control of Trump. It is a major distinction. Trump doesn't have the institutions of labor to control the people the way the Russians did, compliant businesses that offer up their brown people instead of catching them outside, for example. In Russia businesses called out, gave up, and helped contain dissenters. Also, the constitution has power, power that the Russian parliament never had, so Putin could do things like completely control elections nationally. Here the power of elections lies with the states. That is the third line of defense we have against tyranny, the fact that there is a separation between federal and state powers. Enough states are standing against Trump that it would take a full military intervention across the country to contain a full-on rebellion, something the states would not stand for, in the end, which is something Putin never had to face. So Russia was ripe for authoritarian take-over. America is close, way too close for comfort, close enough to pose the single greatest existential threat to the union since the civil war, but even if it ends in civil war, I cannot see a full dictatorship taking hold here for any length of time. Trump will die at some point, and too many people know what we are losing to just let it go. At some point we will rise up, organized and focused, and put the tyrant down. Not with individual stockpiles of guns by preppers but through well-regulated militias, as the constitution called for. I, for one, would join such a militia given the opportunity. Unfortunately Utah is 70% made up of bootlickers, so no chance of that here, but thankfully Utah is also small enough it will just get swept up in whatever comes across the border.



On a side note, I was approached by a guy at a walmart asking me to sign his petition to repeal prop 4 in Utah. For the uninitiated, proposition 4 was the law passed, with a majority vote of the people, that requires third party oversight of congressional maps to avoid gerrymandering. Of course with the current push by Trump to gerrymander everything, the republicans in Utah want to repeal it because the current third party map has a section that would likely result in a democratic seat in congress for Utah, and rightly so. So I told him hell no, and then I blew up his mind by asking him how many people voted democrat in Utah in the last elections. He rightly said about 30%, which shocked me that he even knew that, so I asked him "so 30% of the people are democrats, but you don't want them to have representation, right? So if only 30% voted republican would you want that seat taken away from republicans so democrats can force all the seats to their side? So why would you want 30% of the state to have no representation?" You could actually see the gerbils running and the gears turning in his brain. He said "yeah, I wouldn't want that". So I said, "so why repeal prop 4 that allows for equal representation?" He had no answer and just wandered away in a daze. Funny how logic can fully stymy some people. And incredibly sad how cult-like American politics has become.