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Truth About Taliban

Perhaps you're right.

However, it doesn't bother you that Clown has to constantly bring up his religion as if it's THEE only church on the planet, and anyone who thinks differently is wrong?

sorry Trout, you're way off-base here, you're the one that brought up religion in connection to Bean's post. As written, Bean's post said NOTHING about religion but just regurgitated messages that are heard repeatedly in the public schools, in the media, in posters on public trains and buses, on billboards etc etc etc
 
personally, I've always thought of the Taliban more as a political party, not a religion. Sort of like the old Irish Republican Army is not a representation of the Catholic religion in Ireland.

actually, as I think about it, that Taliban is in many ways equivalent to the IRA.
 
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us civilians killed by terrorsit in the past 12 years? about 3000.
heck spend half the war on terror money on curs for cancer or aids.

this is just sad

Typical lazy Euro wanting the US to do all the work for them and then get our advancements for free.
 
But the government CAN and oftentimes does a fine job of funding and promoting the research necessary to make tremendous strides.

Regardless, it seems like you're fine with throwing away billions to make punkass arabs rich (who play both sides of this game. They jackpot around with their Taliban allies while playing the "good boy" card to us... While eating our money).

If repubs were really concerned with debt and government overreach, wouldn't they be demanding the closing of at least half our bases? Bringing the troops home? And spending maybe only 2-3 times as much in defense as the top 10 countries in the world combined?

Couldn't we settle for just a lil less in defense spending? Maybe, just maybe, they could become a lil more thrifty and efficient! It's amazing what a pay reduction could do to productivity and efficiency. Maybe those involved in the military spending could afford a toilet seat less than $300 bucks a bang!

Maybe... Just maybe.... the military has become bloated just like those "entitlement" programs that repubs are constantly ranting about. Meh, naahhhh! Couldn't be! We all know that all other government programs are corrupt and fallible and waste our precious money but the military is exempt! They never waste money! Never ever ever!

Just a thought.


Obama and a democratically crontrolled house and senate increased military spending faster than any other US president.
These same democrats paid for it by cutting education funding and research money.
That is according to Obama's White House, not some think tank. Obama.
It must take a special tool to cram your head as far up your *** as you have it. Jaws of life running in reverse or something.
 
I like how you switch the attention from me to you. It's something women do A LOT. You don't address the statement but rather instead state that I am doing something worse (In your opinion).

Husband : "Hey honey you forget to switch off the lights"
Wife : "I'm tired of you always meddling with my affairs, all you do is sit around all day and watch the Utah Jazz"
(This was the only example I can think of from the top of my head)

I have never stated my beliefs greater then others. However your quote is repeated every time you make a post. If you interpret it that way you are incorrect again. (I'm patiently waiting when your next reply doesn't answer why you put yourself greater then Islam again).

uhmmmmmm. . . . . if your wife does this "a lot", you must be criticizing her "a lot". . . . . .

on the other hand, if you were, instead, saying stuff like "Honey, you're wonderful", I bet she'd let you talk some more about her. . . . or maybe, as you say, "switch the attention" to you somehow. And not in a bad way.

I bet that works pretty much the same in all religions.
 
But the government CAN and oftentimes does a fine job of funding and promoting the research necessary to make tremendous strides.

Regardless, it seems like you're fine with throwing away billions to make punkass arabs rich (who play both sides of this game. They jackpot around with their Taliban allies while playing the "good boy" card to us... While eating our money).

If repubs were really concerned with debt and government overreach, wouldn't they be demanding the closing of at least half our bases? Bringing the troops home? And spending maybe only 2-3 times as much in defense as the top 10 countries in the world combined?

Couldn't we settle for just a lil less in defense spending? Maybe, just maybe, they could become a lil more thrifty and efficient! It's amazing what a pay reduction could do to productivity and efficiency. Maybe those involved in the military spending could afford a toilet seat less than $300 bucks a bang!

Maybe... Just maybe.... the military has become bloated just like those "entitlement" programs that repubs are constantly ranting about. Meh, naahhhh! Couldn't be! We all know that all other government programs are corrupt and fallible and waste our precious money but the military is exempt! They never waste money! Never ever ever!

Just a thought.

I spent saturday on the USS Midway, now serving as a naval museum in San Diego. They had some old salts giving personal presentations at various points. I got my pic taken in the brig, and listened to some profound militarist swill in the radar room, where they had everything set up to imitate the day we started Desert Storm, including the targets to be bombed in Baghdad, like it was some high point in US glory. Someone asked the brass-brained expert what we are going to do to get the nukes outta Iran. He clearly stated that we would be obliged to save the world once again.

Too stupid for words.
 
I spent saturday on the USS Midway, now serving as a naval museum in San Diego. They had some old salts giving personal presentations at various points. I got my pic taken in the brig, and listened to some profound militarist swill in the radar room, where they had everything set up to imitate the day we started Desert Storm, including the targets to be bombed in Baghdad, like it was some high point in US glory. Someone asked the brass-brained expert what we are going to do to get the nukes outta Iran. He clearly stated that we would be obliged to save the world once again.

Too stupid for words.


OT Warning!
Were there any other carriers in port across the bay there? If so, did you happen to notice what numbers they had on the side of them?
 
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Were there any other carriers in port across the bay there? If so, did you happen to notice what numbers they had on the side of them?

I didn't even look. Too much fascination with boilers and bunks. The point was made that the USS Midway was being kept seaworthy, and could be put into active military service on short notice. Almost enough excitement in the attitude shown to make me think this is a current issue.
 
US military dominance/global police power is intoxicating glorious stuff in otherwise empty heads, but it's not consistent with limited constitutional government or human liberty. "Alliance with none, Commerce with all" would be a sufficient and effective US foreign policy that would provide whatever trade needs we have.
 
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Were there any other carriers in port across the bay there? If so, did you happen to notice what numbers they had on the side of them?

Back in the end of November, the USS Ronald Reagan was the only ship that far up in the bay. Everything else was on base down beyond the Coronado Bridge and hardly visible.
 
Id say they are both equally terrible in their own respective rights. What irks me most about the Taliban, is that they place people under the impression that they are the the most pure of muslims. Unfortunately, many people accept this false-notion, and then they associate the islamic faith with things such as sharia law, burkas, "infidel-slaying" and other characterized Taliban atrocities.

To show how wrong these Taliban militants are, in terms of what they are doing do innocent civilians of other faiths, or how ill-advised their crusade against other faiths are, here are some excerpts of a post from mine from a month ago:




I hate recycling old posts, but I felt like you might benefit from re-reading it, Scat.

I have some Iranian friends. Despite the government now in power, there are a lot of Iranian people who could support a modern democracy in that country, if they had the chance. I think this means that the popular support for the government in Iran is fairly weak, and without the jackbooted thugs with the guns, there'd be another revolution. They don't see my point very well, generally, no more than a lot of Americans, when I try to tell them about western Machiavellian spy/counterspy psy-op tactics being used today all over the world. But during the build-up to our own civil war, we had Brit agents handing out cash to support abolitionists and secessionists. The method of intervention which Machiavelli recommended for international intrigue and manipulations was just that.

If you want to "manage" a foreign country, you need a right hand and a left hand, both of which just don't know you're using them both. You send your opposing forces into the countrty you want to govern, and let them foment a whole lot of trouble, while smiling and being friendly with the leader of that country. When it gets so bad for him he needs help, you are "there for him". He asks for help, and you go in to "help", and from then on you're in effective control.

Brits are the master puppeteers of all time. Even though we rebeled against their direct rule, and defeated them in an outright attempt to subjugate us in 1812-1814, and even though they overtly tried to break up our Union in the build-up to Lincoln, after the war we became domininated by their financial intrigues, and allowed the Brits to come back in corporate/banking interests which led us into Imperialism ourselves, and then into two useless world wars, and into sixty years' wars since, and running, all in the interests of Britain's continuing world empire.

It is western intrigues of this sort that created the ideological political movements of this century that some thoughtful moslems believe are bad/abusive displays repugnant to their culture and religion. A bunch of thugs on a practically marxist-style purge of anyone who isn't sufficiently miltarized and devoted to "Islam". And of course, all the right kind of media in this country to make war look unavoidable or justified. Just making a lot of good people look bad, and setting us up for another world war. . . . . where, of course, it will be the decent people who are slaughtered/bombed to smithereeens.

Of course, anyone who speaks the obvious truth like this has to be discredited, and called all sorts of bad names. Time to photo-shop for all the idiot pics with tin-foil hats.

Of course nothing much has changed since Napoleon, either. I've got the movie "Eagle in a Cage" which depicts Napoleon on the isle of St. Helena when the British foreign minister comes to make a deal, to set him free again and set him up with financing once again, to go on another tear through Europe to keep Britain's competitiors too busy fighting each other to give the British any attention.

An Irish doctor, a rebel at heart himself, gave Napoleon something to make his health look questionable, and thwarted the plan.
 
Sorry. had to break up the bickering.

I didn't think there was any bickering here. OB is on hiatus, and I was just trying to go full circle to get back on the topic of the taliban. I remember the good old days when the talilban were our heroes, and "Charlie's War" was glorious. I also remember some of the hypothetical chemical warfare textbooks from the sixties with the scenario that the backwaters of Iraq were ostensibly being huzzahed into chemical warfare agression against our essential oil corporates, and it was the mission of the military to take them out and restore "democracy" at the point of the gun.

Stupid really. While frothing at the mouth about how Islam aims to spread Sharia law at the point of the sword, we think we're in the right for imposing "democracy" at the point of our guns. Western interests support the Islamic radicals and the Israeli fascists as well. In commodities and stocks, manipulators milk the public with pump-and-dump operations; in politics the same folks drain the blood and means of the public with campaigns of war hysteria. Go Goldman-Sachs!!!!!! Huzzzaaahhhh!!!!!!!!!
 
Part 1 looks to be nonsense. They did start getting into into false flags and the like in part 2 where I stopped(mainly because the videos weren't teaching me anything new), which is important stuff especially when you're are making judgements on what's happening in the continuing "Arab Spring" today.

The whole word is just nuts. We've got the media telling us that mercenaries in Syria armed with military grade weapons and vehicles, blowing up government buildings are "activists" somehow. Was Timothy McVeigh an activist? Of course not. It's nonsense. It's just the same fighting groups that are used in every other Arab Spring event moving around from country to country after they take one down. The mercenary carousel is cute, but it's clearly a planned succession of events, with very little inert happenings. Walmart, Exxon, China, Haliburton, whomever could hire any of these guys to fight for them. That's their occupation, they are not fighting for God or Country or anything else. It's money.

We've got such dubious sources these days feeding us information too. All these TV news services interviewing brown kids sitting back in their apartments on Skype, that all speak with perfect British accents, have no hit of any Arabic accent, and sound like they were just taking a break from classes at Oxford, giving us the authoritative play-by-play of the events in Syria like they are watching it from their windows or something.

It's just a big ****ing joke. Duck Tales all around us.
 
sorry Trout, you're way off-base here, you're the one that brought up religion in connection to Bean's post. As written, Bean's post said NOTHING about religion but just regurgitated messages that are heard repeatedly in the public schools, in the media, in posters on public trains and buses, on billboards etc etc etc

Clearly.
 
Part 1 looks to be nonsense. They did start getting into into false flags and the like in part 2 where I stopped(mainly because the videos weren't teaching me anything new), which is important stuff especially when you're are making judgements on what's happening in the continuing "Arab Spring" today.

The whole word is just nuts. We've got the media telling us that mercenaries in Syria armed with military grade weapons and vehicles, blowing up government buildings are "activists" somehow. Was Timothy McVeigh an activist? Of course not. It's nonsense. It's just the same fighting groups that are used in every other Arab Spring event moving around from country to country after they take one down. The mercenary carousel is cute, but it's clearly a planned succession of events, with very little inert happenings. Walmart, Exxon, China, Haliburton, whomever could hire any of these guys to fight for them. That's their occupation, they are not fighting for God or Country or anything else. It's money.

We've got such dubious sources these days feeding us information too. All these TV news services interviewing brown kids sitting back in their apartments on Skype, that all speak with perfect British accents, have no hit of any Arabic accent, and sound like they were just taking a break from classes at Oxford, giving us the authoritative play-by-play of the events in Syria like they are watching it from their windows or something.

It's just a big ****ing joke. Duck Tales all around us.

I found a link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnY_yXVrWiU&feature=related

that has Gen. Wesley Clark first blabbing about chatter among our top in-the-know folks right after 9/11 saying the decision had been made to go to war with Iraq, and actually a total of seven countries in five years. On the list, besides, Irag: Afghanistan, Sudan, Libya, Egypt, Syria, and Iran. Oh, and that other useless country where all the pirates are hiding out, Somalia.

Then, four years later, he's on CNN being all for war with Iran. Was it part 4 where they went into the Brit "divide and conquer" version of Machiavellian tactics?
 
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There will be a war in 2098. It's a gigantic conspiracy they are planning it right now. It just has to happen so we can figure out exactly how after the fact.
 
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