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Two Trades for Two Spaniards

orangello said:
Most of this. Pau=No more Al!
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mikenielsen said:
It needs to make sense for both sides...Here's my take:

https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a598waj

So the Jazz trade Jefferson, Bell, and Watson for Calderon and Bargnani and his 3 years left on contract.
Jazz do this to get something for Jefferson. Toronto does this to get out of Bargnani's contract.

https://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ac52caa

So the Jazz trade Millsap and Marvin Williams for Gasol.
Jazz do this to get something for Millsap and while Gasol's value is low. LA does this to get a couple more pieces that fit better around Howard and Kobe.

With Gasol and Calderon together, I think they renew some chemistry from the Spanish National team and play better together.
Start Favors with Gasol and bring Bargnani off the bench.

I think Calderon could play along side Mo Williams when he comes back.
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bovice said:
Bargnani is garbage, I wouldn't consider him as 'getting something' for Al Jefferson
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Agree
Zulu said:
Explain why you think that??? Cuz I see the opposite!!
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This is in response to the posts above.

Why not develop both Kanter and Favors at the same rate. We could have two young studs anchoring the front court for years building a great chemistry and championship attitude. Bringing in Pau could hurt Kanter's psyche. Kanter may start to wonder if and when he will get his shot at being a starter on this team. We didn't draft him third overall to sit him behind Al and then some other dude we trade Al for.

I say trade for a wing or pg, and give Kanter and Favors grow up together. They're young and could dominate for years to come in a jazz uni.
candrew said:
Calderon is this decade's Morris Peterson.
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nlost so much respect for your b-ball knowledge with this absurd statement.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
nlost so much respect for your b-ball knowledge with this absurd statement.
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You didn't get it. Peterson was on the trading block in Toronto for years - just like Calderon. And yet The Raptors never pulled the trigger on a deal for Peterson - probably because they are asking for too much. Just like Calderon.

Peterson was never traded, signed a fairly good FA deal with another team and then performed terribly - most likely just like Calderon will.
 
Thee Jazz Fan.....

Honestly i don't think Kanter is ready to start but if we had Pau, Favors and Kanter as our Three headed monster that works out to roughly 30+ minutes for Favors and Pau and Kanter gets about 25+ minutes. Do this for the rest of the season and if kanter looks ready to start look to trade Pau during the draft or the offseason or just Keep Pau for his last year, maybe look at trades during the trade deadline, Then Pau comes off the books and we have money for Hayward and Favors. All of this and we will still have a competitive team.
 
candrew said:
of course it will never happen - The Lakers are a big market team. They only make win now moves. Jefferson is not a win now move.
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I disagree. Lakers brass must know this season is a lost cause. Even if they get into the playoffs, they'll lose to clippers/okc/spurs in the first round. Gasol is obviously declining, so they would do it just to dump salary.

Look at the grizzlies today, they gave up a 1st just to dump speights/selby/ellington.
 
candrew said:
You didn't get it. Peterson was on the trading block in Toronto for years - just like Calderon. And yet The Raptors never pulled the trigger on a deal for Peterson - probably because they are asking for too much. Just like Calderon.

Peterson was never traded, signed a fairly good FA deal with another team and then performed terribly - most likely just like Calderon will.
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That makes sense.
 
Zulu said:
Thee Jazz Fan.....

Honestly i don't think Kanter is ready to start but if we had Pau, Favors and Kanter as our Three headed monster that works out to roughly 30+ minutes for Favors and Pau and Kanter gets about 25+ minutes. Do this for the rest of the season and if kanter looks ready to start look to trade Pau during the draft or the offseason or just Keep Pau for his last year, maybe look at trades during the trade deadline, Then Pau comes off the books and we have money for Hayward and Favors. All of this and we will still have a competitive team.
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Kanter and Favors need to learn to be able to carry the team. That's why I want Al gone. With pau on the team the jazz will rely on him and the young guys are back to being a support role. At some point they need to take the bull by the horns and either succeed or fail.
 
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