Ty the turd already on thin ice with me

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I don't like bell starting any more then the rest of you, but you do need some fire power on the bench. Bell could start, but that's not a complete disaster as long as he doesn't play more then 10 to 15 minutes. Ty is more worried about winning then just playing young guys. This is his livelihood, it's easy for us to say sacrifice wins to play the young players, but if Ty thinks this way he could be out the door. There is a ton of pressure for coaches to win now.

We can blame some of this on the lockout shortened TC and preseason. There just isn't time to fully acclimate Burks to the pro game. It's possible Ty wants some scoring off the bench from the wing position, so ether Miles or Hayward needs to play starter minutes off the bench. Then if and when Burks is ready to play, the Jazz take Bell out of the starting lineup and make Burks the primary bench player on the wing to be a scoring threat.

Everyone needs to relax, bell isn't going to kill the Jazz. There is a good chance he will be better then last year, with a full year of being back from injury.

 

[NCJazz]

Yes it would be a huge mistake to start bell. Why the hell don't we just dump him?

If we still didnt have to pay him I am sure we would. If we have an opportunity to sign a wing for 5-8 million I wonder if we would then.

 

[cowhide]

First, you need to calm down. No one knows who will start. Secondly, I guess you were wanting Sloan fired because he started Bell too. Thirdly, I actually thought Corbin did a good job last year. I know the record wasn't great but he was flexible enough to play the players who were playing the best. He had to deal with all the drama, injuries and the legacy of following Sloan. Fourth, the players seem to like and respect Ty so that is a bonus. The change that he has made defensively has only received positive comments from the players. Perhaps they will buy into it more if they agree with what the coach is doing. Lastly, in the end everyone should want the best players playing, if it becomes obvious that Bell isn't then fans can get mad if they continue to play him. However, they haven't even started playing yet so how about some patience? As far as wanting a player to get injured, sorry it is immature and disgusting. Why not hope that you are wrong and Ty proves that he is reasonable and smart enough to put the best players on the court?

 

[Jazz Spazz]

First of all, I'm glad we still have the rotation complaints with Corbin as we did with Sloan. That is awesome.

I am especially concerned about Corbin being Sloan's predecessor. That would have put him here over twenty years ago.

I am willing to wait and see how he does as Sloan's successor though. We really don't have enough information yet to judge what he is doing or where he is headed with Hayward, CJ, and Bell.
(I agree though... I will be disappointed if Bell is much more than a mentor for the better younger guys). ;-)

I'm just wondering if we even want Bell to mentor the young guys. Maybe defensively?

 

[billyshelby]

I didn't read that as CJ and Hayward necessarily competing for the same starting spot. I read it as CJ and Hayward really battling in practice. I don't think Ty has any preconceived notions about anyone starting or not starting at this point.

 

[Jerry Lundegaard]

I am especially concerned about Corbin being Sloan's predecessor.

Nice catch. I will not edit it and will keep it so I look like an uneducated idiot. However, my sentiments still remain.

 

[Jerry Lundegaard]

I'm just wondering if we even want Bell to mentor the young guys. Maybe defensively?

No!!!! The notion that Bell is a good defender is absolutely preposterous! He was abused the last three seasons he's played in the NBA on that side of the floor.

 

[billyshelby]

Ty also said CJ is playing fast and athletic while Hayward's being stronger is helping him. That kind of suggests a 2 and 3 pairing. But at the same time, I would imagine he's worried about not having reliable scorers on the 2nd unit. That could mean CJ on the 2nd unit. But whatever the case, who actually starts is irrelevant to minutes and closing halves/games.

 

[SojoDave]

I didn't read that as CJ and Hayward necessarily competing for the same starting spot. I read it as CJ and Hayward really battling in practice. I don't think Ty has any preconceived notions about anyone starting or not starting at this point.

Ty has a big challenge with not only who starts, but who gets minutes. Plus, what is his philosophy on who plays down the stretch of games. Give Ty a break, just because he says something in an interview doesn't mean it's time to throw him under the bus.

 

[LogGrad98]

And here I was just telling my grade 7s to only use big words when they are sure of their meaning.

If I had any rep power I would rep you.

I got it covered.

+11

 

[LogGrad98]

And here I was just telling my grade 7s to only use big words when they are sure of their meaning.

First of all, I'm glad we still have the rotation complaints with Corbin as we did with Sloan. That is awesome.



I'm just wondering if we even want Bell to mentor the young guys. Maybe defensively?

In his heyday Bell was decent all around. He at least understands the game at that position. We could have worse mentors. Does anyone want any of our new guys learning all of CJ's tricks? Ugh.

 

[Jerry Lundegaard]

Ty also said CJ is playing fast and athletic while Hayward's being stronger is helping him. That kind of suggests a 2 and 3 pairing. But at the same time, I would imagine he's worried about not having reliable scorers on the 2nd unit. That could mean CJ on the 2nd unit. But whatever the case, who actually starts is irrelevant to minutes and closing halves/games.

You're right, whoever is on the court during crunch time is what's important. But starting Bell would be like starting a game 4-on-5 and the opposition could build a 15 point lead right off the bat because he's so deficient in every facet of the game. Corbin is a basketcase and probably thinks he has to start Bell because of his reputation from 2005.