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The Thriller

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I am genuinely curious how this impacts the election. We’re seeing a massive split among sexes with men supporting Trump and women supporting Harris. It’s an issue that has moved voters in even red states against Republicans. It might move voters against Trump in ways that the current polling just isn’t picking up.

Anyone else see this? Read the article! And watch the woman from Idaho and her Tik Tok video. It’s moving.

 
I am genuinely curious how this impacts the election. We’re seeing a massive split among sexes with men supporting Trump and women supporting Harris. It’s an issue that has moved voters in even red states against Republicans. It might move voters against Trump in ways that the current polling just isn’t picking up.

Anyone else see this? Read the article! And watch the woman from Idaho and her Tik Tok video. It’s moving.

I don't feel that the Harris campaign has capitalized on this issue as much as she could. I do think it has the potential to get voters out who might otherwise just not bother.

I do think that if Roe had never been overturned and Trump had only appointed 2 SCOTUS justices (let's say RBG is still hanging on) that would be advantage Trump. The promise/hope of overturning Roe was always a better selling point then the reality of it being overturned.
 
I don't feel that the Harris campaign has capitalized on this issue as much as she could. I do think it has the potential to get voters out who might otherwise just not bother.

I do think that if Roe had never been overturned and Trump had only appointed 2 SCOTUS justices (let's say RBG is still hanging on) that would be advantage Trump. The promise/hope of overturning Roe was always a better selling point then the reality of it being overturned.
Do you think this has been downplayed/ignored purposely? It’s been a galvanizing issue for people across the political spectrum. One doesn’t have to be pro abortion. Many of us just want choice. We don’t want our loved ones to suffer with ectopic pregnancies or be forced to carry a rapists’ baby. We want IVF. And we especially don’t want creeps like Trump telling telling women and families what to do with their bodies and health care.

If I were on the Harris campaign, I’d make this a cornerstone of the campaign. Lumping JD and Donald together on this issue is a political winner. It unites the anti Trump base while splitting Donald’s.
 
I don't feel that the Harris campaign has capitalized on this issue as much as she could.
How do you think she could have capitalized on it more? Harris is pro-choice and Trump is pro-choice. The difference between the two on the issue of abortion is that Harris wants to subvert democracy while Trump wants the people to have a say in how they are governed. Do you really think Harris, after subverting the democratic process in claiming the nomination, should hammer harder that she believes more of the people's voice should be removed from them?
 
Trump wants the people to have a say in how they are governed.

Meanwhile, the majority of Americans don't want to be governed whatsoever in their own personal healthcare decisions.
That's the problem with trumps stance. He wants the people to decide how the other people are governed in regards to their personal healthcare based on a states majority vote.

Kamala wants government to have nothing to do with Americans personal healthcare decisions.

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Kamala wants government to have nothing to do with Americans personal healthcare decisions.
Could not disagree more strongly. Kamala Harris is a massive proponent of involving government in American’s personal healthcare decisions. She has never opposed Obamacare. On the debate stage in 2019, she raised her hand to indicate she would support abolishing private health insurance entirely to give the government an absolute monopoly on all medical services commerce.

Sadly, the number of Americans who would support a total takeover of the healthcare industry by the government far outnumbers the Americans calling for massive deregulation of the industry to get the government out of healthcare. Kamala Harris wants to take it one step further, and remove the American people from having any voice in their personal healthcare decisions even if that voice is as small as casting a vote on election day.
 
Could not disagree more strongly. Kamala Harris is a massive proponent of involving government in American’s personal healthcare decisions. She has never opposed Obamacare. On the debate stage in 2019, she raised her hand to indicate she would support abolishing private health insurance entirely to give the government an absolute monopoly on all medical services commerce.

Sadly, the number of Americans who would support a total takeover of the healthcare industry by the government far outnumbers the Americans calling for massive deregulation of the industry to get the government out of healthcare. Kamala Harris wants to take it one step further, and remove the American people from having any voice in their personal healthcare decisions even if that voice is as small as casting a vote on election day.
Your mistake here is equating healthcare with personal healthcare decisions which are two different things.


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How do you think she could have capitalized on it more? Harris is pro-choice and Trump is pro-choice. The difference between the two on the issue of abortion is that Harris wants to subvert democracy while Trump wants the people to have a say in how they are governed. Do you really think Harris, after subverting the democratic process in claiming the nomination, should hammer harder that she believes more of the people's voice should be removed from them?

Trump isn't pro-choice, he is pro-Trump. He doesn't give a **** about abortion. He'll never be affected by it so he doesn't care other than using it to drive Americans apart and strengthen his cult.
 
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